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Any word if they will attempt to pump in crowd noise for the Husker home games? Not sure what I think about that. On one hand, it's lame as hell to pretend people are present, but I guess if the team wants it, it should be up to them. It might create a new job position in all Big10 athletic departments. "Fake Noise MC" will be all the rage..... :)
 
I will agree this type of information is not discussed factually on major media outlets - that often includes Fox. But it is not really different for the U.S. than other countries - so what is her point? Virus spread in any group leaks into the highest risk age group........hence the desire to keep it under some level of control. Is there a bit too much hype on total number of positive tests - sure. Should be focused more on positivity rates, hospitalizations, etc. since those actually are what matter. But putting up 6 million positives test is too much fun...I guess.
 
Any word if they will attempt to pump in crowd noise for the Husker home games? Not sure what I think about that. On one hand, it's lame as hell to pretend people are present, but I guess if the team wants it, it should be up to them. It might create a new job position in all Big10 athletic departments. "Fake Noise MC" will be all the rage..... :)


I had a plan to address this issue...pretty brilliant, if I may say. Pls see the "off site viewing" thread...
 
I will agree this type of information is not discussed factually on major media outlets - that often includes Fox. But it is not really different for the U.S. than other countries - so what is her point? Virus spread in any group leaks into the highest risk age group........hence the desire to keep it under some level of control. Is there a bit too much hype on total number of positive tests - sure. Should be focused more on positivity rates, hospitalizations, etc. since those actually are what matter. But putting up 6 million positives test is too much fun...I guess.
Hospitalizations due to covid-like symptoms is now down to 1.5% of all ER visits. The strain we have now isn't terribly virulent.
 
Hospitalizations due to covid-like symptoms is now down to 1.5% of all ER visits. The strain we have now isn't terribly virulent.
Here is all the CDC data - most of the trends are good at a national level and this confirms your trend on ER visits (lower than normal baseline - but I think that is in part because if people can avoid going to the doctor or hospital they do). Certainly justifies the decisions made by the B1G and Pac-12.

COVIDView, Key Updates for Week 38

The state by state testing data still shows some problems with high positivity rates - which is part of what will get B1G teams in trouble qualifying to play games.

Track Testing Trends - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
 
Here is all the CDC data - most of the trends are good at a national level and this confirms your trend on ER visits (lower than normal baseline - but I think that is in part because if people can avoid going to the doctor or hospital they do). Certainly justifies the decisions made by the B1G and Pac-12.

COVIDView, Key Updates for Week 38

The state by state testing data still shows some problems with high positivity rates - which is part of what will get B1G teams in trouble qualifying to play games.

Track Testing Trends - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
Ya, even if data shows that people are not getting very sick when Covid-19 positive, the rates of positivity are the metrics that the Big10 has put in place. So, like it or not, extensive community spread without a high rate of hospitalizations will keep the Huskers from playing football.....
 
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Atlas is a radiologist - not an immunologist.....I don't consider him an expert on the spread of COVID. That said - it probably is worth looking at the research he mentions. He also never stated what he thought the level of immunity actually is - just that the CDC statement of 9% was wrong. Which it very well could be if you combine T-cell and antibody results - but we don't actually have the real test data to know (I don't think the samples are large enough to call them viable for projecting immunity for the entire nation).
 
Atlas is a radiologist - not an immunologist.....I don't consider him an expert on the spread of COVID. That said - it probably is worth looking at the research he mentions. He also never stated what he thought the level of immunity actually is - just that the CDC statement of 9% was wrong. Which it very well could be if you combine T-cell and antibody results - but we don't actually have the real test data to know (I don't think the samples are large enough to call them viable for projecting immunity for the entire nation).
The papers he is referring to suggest that about 50% of people have cross immunity from other coronaviruses. That stands to reason when you look at states like New York and Florida, where once 20% of the population has tested positive herd immunity kicks in and numbers flatten out. It would be consistent with the projection of 65-70% for herd immunity.

FWIW, herd immunity doesn't mean the virus is gone. It will never be gone. It just means that for every person that gets it, they will pass it on to 1 additional person or less. Rural states like Nebraska and Wyoming will be the last to get there just due to our lifestyles, but it'll probably still happen before a vaccine comes out.
 
The papers he is referring to suggest that about 50% of people have cross immunity from other coronaviruses. That stands to reason when you look at states like New York and Florida, where once 20% of the population has tested positive herd immunity kicks in and numbers flatten out. It would be consistent with the projection of 65-70% for herd immunity.

FWIW, herd immunity doesn't mean the virus is gone. It will never be gone. It just means that for every person that gets it, they will pass it on to 1 additional person or less. Rural states like Nebraska and Wyoming will be the last to get there just due to our lifestyles, but it'll probably still happen before a vaccine comes out.
20 % is not enough to have herd immunity
 
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"However, the following month there was a sharp downturn and since the middle of June, new cases have remained steady, generally hovering at between 500 and 1,000 per day. Of the almost 452,000 cases in the state, 366,000 were recorded before June."

This is what herd immunity is, as cited in the article.
No it is not, and the article says as much, the cases went down because people did what they needed to do, and didnt ack like snowflakes about putting a mask on in public


“Following the exchange, Paul posted a link to a study published in Science that found around 40 percent of a population would need to be infected to achieve herd immunity. But as a number of scientists pointed out, this is double the level of infection seen in New York City.”
 
Not sure where to ask this, so I'll ask it here. Has the BIG put any limitations on roster size for its programs during this Covid year? I know this concerned Scott a while back, but I haven't heard anything since.
 
No it is not, and the article says as much, the cases went down because people did what they needed to do, and didnt ack like snowflakes about putting a mask on in public


“Following the exchange, Paul posted a link to a study published in Science that found around 40 percent of a population would need to be infected to achieve herd immunity. But as a number of scientists pointed out, this is double the level of infection seen in New York City.”

The article Paul referenced isn't the same as the research papers that Scott Atlas was referring to, FTR. Also, the current survival rate is over 99.98% for every age demographic up to the point of average life expectancy, where it drops to 94%, so Im not sure how Maddow suggests a 3% death rate.
 
At one point in this area we were allowed back in to bars and restaurants then the numbers shot up. Numbers are way down now so perhaps this week we can get back indoors which is great because the weather is starting to really cool down.
 
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