Rumor: Possible expansion announcement this week.
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All I know is that I'd bet the farm that Presidents weren't willing for their school to take a smaller cut to add them. So either there was some creative financing from somewhere OR the Commish assured the Presidents that there were more big bucks to be made in a B1G-SEC-centric National Championship tournament.
It seems ironic that this massive college football expansion and upheaval will quite possibly result in smaller geographic divisions with their own unique identities. We may end up in a new version of the Big 8.
A few things I've noticed this evening:
1. The conference statement on the expansion simply said the presidents/chancellors approved Washington and Oregon, but no use of the word unanimous. They always work that in when able to do so. I wonder about the no votes.
2. The much-hyped '24 and '25 conference schedules are already deleted from the official Nebraska website. Lot's of time and effort now in the trash.
3. The talking heads on the B1G network talked scheduling, bringing up options like pods and going back to an east-west division with nine teams on each side. We'd be in the west, so the prospect of playing all four west-coast teams every year is real.
4. We're going to see parity like the NFL. Really great teams could finish 8-4 or 9-3. It will take an adjustment for fan bases. The up side is we'll see some great games!
1. The conference statement on the expansion simply said the presidents/chancellors approved Washington and Oregon, but no use of the word unanimous. They always work that in when able to do so. I wonder about the no votes.
2. The much-hyped '24 and '25 conference schedules are already deleted from the official Nebraska website. Lot's of time and effort now in the trash.
3. The talking heads on the B1G network talked scheduling, bringing up options like pods and going back to an east-west division with nine teams on each side. We'd be in the west, so the prospect of playing all four west-coast teams every year is real.
4. We're going to see parity like the NFL. Really great teams could finish 8-4 or 9-3. It will take an adjustment for fan bases. The up side is we'll see some great games!
I haven’t had time to sniff around much, but I heard the new two members will have a much reduced share…….like maybe 30 mil….. and then a small increase every year until a new TV contract is up for discussion…..maybe a mil a year for the next seven years. Small compared the existing members, but more than they would have garnered from Apple in the pac. That is still leaves 60-70 mil/yr from existing members if TV monies aren’t renegotiated. Is the BIG betting on the come and willing share the profits for seven years, or are media moguls willing to pony up?
Anyone heard anything different?
Anyone heard anything different?
Even with reduced shares, this deal is costing individual members money. The fact they did it anyway tells me they are betting on a new national playoff format featuring the B1G vs the SEC which will more than make up the difference.
Pretty good write-up on what's next for everyone.
What's next for the Big Ten, SEC, Florida State, Notre Dame and remaining Pac-12 schools?
What's next for the Big Ten, SEC, Florida State, Notre Dame and remaining Pac-12 schools?
Normally I don't pay much attention to the PAC except for watching the occasional highlights and I couldn't remember records for any of the four new B1G entries so I looked up their records.
Uh oh.....we'd better get much improved in a real hurry This could be a lot of fun.
Uh oh.....we'd better get much improved in a real hurry This could be a lot of fun.
How about a format when they get over 20 teams where its an 8 game conference schedule, two out of conference (self arranged) pre-conference season games, then a top 8 tourney to set up for the bowls. Non tournament teams complete games 11 and 12 in tier matchups.
Top 8 teams play in a bracket 8v1, 7v2, 6v3, and 5v4. Lower seed has home field. If you lose first round you go to tier invites (see below) while winners play on. Grand champion represents the conference. Second round losers will have reached 12 games so no additional game for them.
Non tournament teams get league invites for matchups by tiers. Pair up fairly even matchups, but allow better team the home field. Bonus for winning your matchup, more or less break even for losers. You should never replay anyone during tier matchups. You play tier matchups until you've reached at least twelve games. Encourage better from the bottom folks. Because tier matchups are less priority you can spread games further out to accommodate teams needing to plan travel.
Top 8 teams play in a bracket 8v1, 7v2, 6v3, and 5v4. Lower seed has home field. If you lose first round you go to tier invites (see below) while winners play on. Grand champion represents the conference. Second round losers will have reached 12 games so no additional game for them.
Non tournament teams get league invites for matchups by tiers. Pair up fairly even matchups, but allow better team the home field. Bonus for winning your matchup, more or less break even for losers. You should never replay anyone during tier matchups. You play tier matchups until you've reached at least twelve games. Encourage better from the bottom folks. Because tier matchups are less priority you can spread games further out to accommodate teams needing to plan travel.
Telling: Washington president on Big Ten move: 'It was about stability' - ESPN
More and more, you are seeing attempts to move sports solely onto streaming platforms, not meeting expectations.
More and more, you are seeing attempts to move sports solely onto streaming platforms, not meeting expectations.
Casey Rogers, Tony Tuioti give Oregon Big Ten perspective after Nebraska experience
“There’s a lot of great traditions in the Big Ten,” Tuioti said. “I just think the fan base there and a lot of different places are exciting to be a part of. You can go to the Horseshoe, you can go to the Big House, you can go into Memorial Stadium, you know, there’s great tradition there.”
While the environments will be more grandiose, the play style might be a bit different as well. Football on the west coast is synonymous with flash and scoring, but in the Midwest, a certain physicality is expected.
“Big Ten football, you gotta be able to play the run and you got to be able to also get after some athletic quarterbacks too as well,” Tuioti said. “One great thing about being at Oregon is we can recruit nationally, and we can go get some of those players too, and be able to run with them and be able to you know, play in the trenches and beast out.”
For Rogers, a player who spent three years at Nebraska before coming to Oregon, it’s the atmosphere of playing in the Big Ten that will stand out the most to Duck players an fans.
“The cathedrals of college football are in the Big Ten,” Rogers said. “You’ve got a lot of the historic and traditional football teams and stadiums that I think it will be cool for Oregon to play. Just as a fan aspect, a lot of the times Big Ten stadiums are 100,000, 90,000, 85,000 people, so it’s always fun to go to a big stadium like that.”
The thought of those stadium environments and marquee matchups is fun to think about. However, a more pressing matter is the 2023 season, which starts in less than a month with Portland State coming to town on September 2.
At the moment, that’s what has the attention of Tuioti and the rest of the staff in Eugene.
“You know, we’re excited about being in the Big Ten, but we got a tough Pac-12 schedule that we got to play,” Tuioti said. “We got a Heisman Trophy returner in our conference, and we got a really good quarterback up in Washington, so we got our work cut out for us in this league before it’s all said and done.”
“There’s a lot of great traditions in the Big Ten,” Tuioti said. “I just think the fan base there and a lot of different places are exciting to be a part of. You can go to the Horseshoe, you can go to the Big House, you can go into Memorial Stadium, you know, there’s great tradition there.”
While the environments will be more grandiose, the play style might be a bit different as well. Football on the west coast is synonymous with flash and scoring, but in the Midwest, a certain physicality is expected.
“Big Ten football, you gotta be able to play the run and you got to be able to also get after some athletic quarterbacks too as well,” Tuioti said. “One great thing about being at Oregon is we can recruit nationally, and we can go get some of those players too, and be able to run with them and be able to you know, play in the trenches and beast out.”
For Rogers, a player who spent three years at Nebraska before coming to Oregon, it’s the atmosphere of playing in the Big Ten that will stand out the most to Duck players an fans.
“The cathedrals of college football are in the Big Ten,” Rogers said. “You’ve got a lot of the historic and traditional football teams and stadiums that I think it will be cool for Oregon to play. Just as a fan aspect, a lot of the times Big Ten stadiums are 100,000, 90,000, 85,000 people, so it’s always fun to go to a big stadium like that.”
The thought of those stadium environments and marquee matchups is fun to think about. However, a more pressing matter is the 2023 season, which starts in less than a month with Portland State coming to town on September 2.
At the moment, that’s what has the attention of Tuioti and the rest of the staff in Eugene.
“You know, we’re excited about being in the Big Ten, but we got a tough Pac-12 schedule that we got to play,” Tuioti said. “We got a Heisman Trophy returner in our conference, and we got a really good quarterback up in Washington, so we got our work cut out for us in this league before it’s all said and done.”
REPORT: Dollar figure finally emerges on ‘significant’ ESPN deal Pac-12 rejected
Earlier this week, John Ourand of Sports Business Journal reported that in 2022, Pac-12 presidents rejected what was termed a “significant” offer from ESPN for Pac-12 media rights.
Let’s remember that the Big 12 arrived at a deal — sans Texas and Oklahoma (who will leave next year) — for $31.7 million per school. That was a remarkably good price point considering the two huge brands in the conference were going out the door and would no longer be part of the media landscape in the Big 12.
Apparently, the Pac-12 had a competitive media rights price point in 2022, but according to John Canzano, the conference’s presidents turned down an ESPN deal at the time. That deal would have paid out $30 million to each member school per year.
Earlier this week, John Ourand of Sports Business Journal reported that in 2022, Pac-12 presidents rejected what was termed a “significant” offer from ESPN for Pac-12 media rights.
Let’s remember that the Big 12 arrived at a deal — sans Texas and Oklahoma (who will leave next year) — for $31.7 million per school. That was a remarkably good price point considering the two huge brands in the conference were going out the door and would no longer be part of the media landscape in the Big 12.
Apparently, the Pac-12 had a competitive media rights price point in 2022, but according to John Canzano, the conference’s presidents turned down an ESPN deal at the time. That deal would have paid out $30 million to each member school per year.
I've seen this scenario play out before on Let's Make a Deal with Monty Hall.
Back in the day, I watched a whole bunch of numbskulls exchange a great deal in favor of the 'Mystery Prize' behind Door Number 2.
I live in SEC and ACC country. The Miami and FSU fans have been bragging this week about word is out they are going to the B1G. I found that very interesting that it came from them spontaneously, because they people saying it I don't talk football with let alone speak to them in general. These were conversations that I overheard.
The PAC 12 has had a commissioner that I would not trust with a taco stand. They complained for years that no one on the east coast wanted to stay up late and watch games while ignoring the idea of moving to morning games in Seattle and LA. Simple but the solution could not gain traaction with the eggheads in charge and now they are looking at the demise of the Pac 12.
There's other reasons why ESPN had to layoff so many people. That's a convo for another day though.
