Ready or not.... baggage and all.....

I hate to tell you this there is no E for effort. I simply do not know what it will take but another blowout like yesterday, no matter how UNFAIR it is to him and he will have lost his tryout. We have murderers row in November and he best needs to have won some games prior to November. If it was my choice I would get a HC with proven record.

There is not a fan on this board that wants another losing season.

As Dr. F pointed out, Mickey knew what he was up against and that the odds are stacked against him.

Unfortunately, I think we're all finding out that things are much worse than they seemed a week ago. Which is nearly impossible.
 
In Quantico they have a bunch of citations for Marines and Corpsmen who received the MOH. Some of the Corpsman citations are insane for bravery.

Yeah, the Navy Hospital Corpsman is the most decorated rating and Corps in the Military. I always said, I hope I never get a Clinic named after me. Semper Fi!
 
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‘I should have left’: Urban Meyer addresses viral video showing him at Ohio bar - YouTube

"The school’s investigation — led by Mary Jo White, a former U.S. attorney and former chair of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission — also concluded that while Meyer didn’t cover up wrongdoing by his assistant, he didn’t act forcefully enough in the face of repeated signs of misconduct by the former receivers coach, which included a 2014 incident in which he took high school coaches to a strip club in Miami while on a recruiting trip representing the school.

Ohio State suspends Urban Meyer for three games over handling of domestic abuse claims - The Washington Post

"Meyer, reading from a written statement during a news conference late Wednesday, acknowledged his loyalty to former Ohio State coach Earl Bruce — Meyer’s mentor and Zach Smith’s grandfather — likely played a role in how he dealt with Smith, who was also accused by his ex-wife of assaulting her in 2009 and arrested on a charge of driving under the influence in 2013. Meyer fired Zach Smith last month, after Smith’s ex-wife obtained a protective order against him, bringing the previous abuse allegations to light.

“I followed my heart and not my head,” Meyer said. “At each juncture, I gave Zach Smith the benefit of the doubt. . . . I should have demanded more from him and recognized red flags. . . . I should have done more, and I am sorry for that.”
Wrong body part. It wasn't his heart he was following.
 
I don’t want you in my Foxhole…
First let me make it clear. I've never been in foxhole with anyone. I have however known many relatives who have. Some made it out. Some made it out very injured. And some never made it out at all. One lost a lung. Another lived with an injured shoulder and arm. One was shot in the back (Afghanistan....not a true foxhole). One whose remains were just returned from WW II after he was identified with DNA to someone in my wife's family. And one who was in Iraq who came back physically unharmed, but the memories..... I get to live in the greatest country in the world because of them, and men and women like them.

All those who did whom I was able to talk with said the number one ingredient they wanted was to be in the trenches with was integrity (ie a guy they could trust). If the guys they were holed with was someone only thought of themselves, that is the number one thing that made them most uncomfortable...... and fearful. Agreed there were other things like courage, knowledge of the situation, proper training, and level headed thinking that factored in, but they absolutely needed to TRUST the integrity, and lack of selfishness, of their comrades. There are several on the list that I question their trustworthiness......and Urban is one of those.

I might read him wrong. And if Trev chooses him, I will support the team, the program, and Urban, until, or if, he proves that I can't. I would like to think there are others of his ability (and I don't question that he is a very good college coach), that because of circumstances, and situations, don't have his track record, but could if given a chance. The Belichicks' the Meyers' and the Sabans' are at the top. Maybe they are there for a reason I don't subscribe to. I dunno. I want to win too........really, really, really badly. I hope I don't have compromise too far to get my wish.
 
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First let me make it clear. I've never been in foxhole with anyone. I have however known many relatives who have. Some made it out. Some made it out very injured. And some never made it out at all. One lost a lung. Another lived with an injured shoulder and arm. One was shot in the back (Afghanistan....not a true foxhole). One whose remains were just returned from WW II after he was identified with DNA to someone in my wife's family. And one who was in Iraq who came back physically unharmed, but the memories..... I get to live in the greatest country in the world because of them, and men and women like them.

All those who did whom I was able to talk with said the number one ingredient they wanted was to be in the trenches with was integrity (ie a guy they could trust). If the guys they were holed with was someone only thought of themselves, that is the number one thing that made them most uncomfortable...... and fearful. Agreed there were other things like courage, knowledge of the situation, proper training, and level headed thinking that factored in, but they absolutely needed to TRUST the integrity, and lack of selfishness, of their comrades. Their are several on the list that I question their trustworthiness......and Urban is one of those.

I might read him wrong. And if Trev chooses him, I will support the team, the program, and Urban until, or if, he proves that I can't. I would like to think there are others of his ability (and I don't question that he is a very good college coach), that beI agreecause of circumstances, and situations, don't have his track record, but could if given a chance. The Belichicks' the Meyers' and the Sabans' are at the top. Maybe they are there for a reason I don't subscribe to. I dunno. I want to win too........really, really, really badly. I hope I don't have compromise too far to get my wish.
I agree 100% until your last paragraph. I'm not willing to compromise to get my wish. Like you, I really, really want the Huskers to win again but not at the cost of integrity. Problem is once integrity is lost, it's gone. No getting it back. It's kind of like my momma used to lecture me about my "reputation" -- One lost, you can never get it back. I saw that with classmates. I'm not down with the Huskers losing their integrity. It's a game, just a game. Fun to watch when we're winning but still just a game.
 
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Right now I would take 5 years of good football in a heart beat or probably another 8 years of Bo Pelini if we could get back to minimum 9 wins. But we know Bo antics would not be tolerated by Trev
I dont think you would have Bos antics. I think he would be given what he needed to help him win. He wasnt given that before. Tom did all he could to help but he didnt get that support from higher up. Riley and Frost have been given most and more than Bo wanted to help in recruiting etc. If Bo had been given those things I think you would have seen a different person. JMO
 
How can anyone think we'd be selling our soul for a winner if we hired Urban Meyer?
It's not like the guy is a cancer or leaves a place worse than when he showed up.
That guy has won everywhere in college and a proven helluva coach. We'd be LUCKY
to get him.
I think Florida would disagree with you. He didnt treat the players very well down there. They may have had a better football team but it wasnt all roses when he left, many in the university and many Gator fans were glad to see him leave.
 
I dont think you would have Bos antics. I think he would be given what he needed to help him win. He wasnt given that before. Tom did all he could to help but he didnt get that support from higher up. Riley and Frost have been given most and more than Bo wanted to help in recruiting etc. If Bo had been given those things I think you would have seen a different person. JMO
What's Bo doing these days? Still waiting for a program to give him the support he needs to be successful?
 
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I think Florida would disagree with you. He didnt treat the players very well down there. They may have had a better football team but it wasnt all roses when he left, many in the university and many Gator fans were glad to see him leave.

Blatzie bein' sarcazzie...
 
Urban can have $5 million to come here with another $11 million incentive pay for 8 win seasons. An extra $2 million for a national championship. We will be a regular 8-4 in no time.

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It may make more sense for incremental rewards. Start with a $5 million annual base. An extra $2 million for 8 win seasons. An extra $1 million for each the 9th and 10th wins. An extra $1 million for more than 10 wins. An extra $1 million for a division championship. An extra $2 million for winning the B1G. An extra $1 million for a bowl or playoff (non-championship game) appearance. An extra $2 mil for a national championship appearance. An extra $1 million for winning the national championship. The maximum payout would be $18 million a year with a national championship.

A 7-5 season with no division championship and no bowl invite is worth $5 million.
A 7-5 season with no division championship and a bowl appearance is worth $6 million.
A 7-5 season with a division championship, a conference championship loss, and a bowl loss is worth $8 million.
A 7-5 season with a division championship, a conference championship loss, and a bowl win is worth $9 million.
A 7-5 season with a division championship, a conference championship win, no shot at national championship, and a bowl win is worth $11 million.

An 8-4 season with no division championship and no bowl invite is worth $7 million.
An 8-4 season with no division championship and a bowl loss is worth $8 million.
An 8-4 season with no division championship and a bowl win is worth $9 million.
An 8-4 season with a division championship, a conference championship loss, and a bowl loss is worth $10 million.
An 8-4 season with a division championship, a conference championship loss, and a bowl win is worth $11 million.
An 8-4 season with a division championship, a conference championship win, no shot at national championship, and a bowl win is worth $13 million.

A 9-3 season with no division championship and a bowl loss is worth $10 million.
A 9-3 season with a division championship, a conference championship loss, and a bowl loss is worth $11 million.
A 9-3 season with a division championship, a conference championship loss, and a bowl win is worth $12 million.

A 9-3 (or better) season with a division championship, a conference championship win, no shot at national championship, and a bowl win is worth $13 million.
A 9-3 (or better) season with a division championship, a conference championship win, a first round playoff win, no shot at national championship due to a second round playoff loss is worth $15 million.
A 9-3 (or better) season with a division championship, a conference championship win, a first round playoff win, an actual shot at national championship due to a second round playoff win, and national championship loss is worth $17 million.
A 9-3 (or better) season with a division championship, a conference championship win, a first round playoff win, an actual shot at national championship due to a second round playoff win, and national championship win is worth $18 million.

The only question mark is if the coach negotiates separate for media appearances or it is part of the original base.
 
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"There IS interest between the two." - AdamCarriker94

Trev and Urban having a chat to feel each other out is all that I've been asking for.

Hey, if Trev thinks it could work out with Urban Meyer, Fine and dandy, I trust his judgement. If Trev comes away thinking we should take a pass, That's fine and dandy too.

Yes, there are several issues ADTA would need to carefully consider before going that direction. But my point has been you don't automatically eliminate a CFB program-builder of Urban Meyer's stature out-of-hand.