Coaching Wish List and Your Reason Why?
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JackD;35210 said:
There's one problem with your list....the head coach is still Bo Pelini.
Frost and Muschamp are way to smart too join a sinking ship. Plus, Bo couldn't coexist with them anyway, neither one of them would accept being bullied. Furthermore, Bo isn't going to fire his buddies even if Eichorst asks him to. He will be defiant every step of the way.
Bo had his chance to clean house once and he hired clowns. We are supposed to give him a 3rd time to hire anyone he wants? At some point, you have to realize who the actual problem is.
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Husker316;35208 said:
Yes--Johnson has won at Navy and GT--looks like he will be in the conf champ game vs FSU this year--no small feat--he has won year in and year out with lesser talent --as I said, he was at the top of my wish list last time--and has done nothing to change that view
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Johnson_(American_football_coach)
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JackD;35210 said:
So much LOL in this post. Keep the HC but replace all the assistants. LOL. Just LOL.
JackD;35210 said:
Garrison would have to go. His OL coaching is atrocious. He's been the full time OL coach now 2 years and this is what we have?
Surprised Turner Gill's name hasn't popped up more on here. Personally I think he'd do okay, not a home run, but I think he'd do as well as Bo.
Spurrier? He's getting up there in age, but I suppose if Bill Snyder can do it.
I vote no on coach Kill.
Gary Patterson would be nice.
This really is a sticky situation. I really don't see Bo getting fired, and I hope he doesn't because that perception issue is big. We don't wanna be in the same situation after Frank got the can and then had nobody wanting to come here and then have to settle for somebody. Bo leaving on his own is about the only conceivable option I see, absent a couple losing seasons.
Spurrier? He's getting up there in age, but I suppose if Bill Snyder can do it.
I vote no on coach Kill.
Gary Patterson would be nice.
This really is a sticky situation. I really don't see Bo getting fired, and I hope he doesn't because that perception issue is big. We don't wanna be in the same situation after Frank got the can and then had nobody wanting to come here and then have to settle for somebody. Bo leaving on his own is about the only conceivable option I see, absent a couple losing seasons.
HuskerFan2002;35247 said:
I'm sorry but how do you figure, listening to fans, 4 losses a year is just ducky. Thats how far down this program has crept. Wish SE had the juice the AD at Florida has, and just finish this off.
SUHnami;35241 said:
Suh, we need to hire an existing head coach, with a track record, and a staff.
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Hard to make an argument for keeping any of the coaches at this point. Brown, Kaz you maybe can. It's hard to tell.......But, I agree that the OL is not very good and no one should be immune to criticismSUHnami;35241 said:
I'd like to see the staff overhauled. Papuchis and Beck are the wrong guys. Cotton could disappear and I wouldn't shed a tear. I don't think Garrisson or Kaz are too bad, but the defensive secondary needs a new coach. The tight ends basically disappeared this year. I'm disappointed in RB's, too.
MadRat;35255 said:
Unfortunately the OL hasn't been better under Garrison and that is with better overall talent, but he is a solid recruiter and young. He should improve in time. Kaz is doing fine and is a good recruiter.
I agree on both coordinators. I think folks need to pump the brakes with the "coach wish list" stuff, not because they shouldn't feel that way but because the likelihood of 99% of those names becoming reality are so slim it isn't funny. And a big part of that has to do with $$$ on both ends. Buying out existing coaches and paying new.
The more likely thing, and even this isn't as likely as we might hope, is that Bo is forced to make changes. Mainly at the coordinator positions. But would Bo, being the players' coach and the coaches' coach he is, do it? If he doesn't, then he should probably hit the road. What happened Saturday was too eerily similar to many other losses, where the offense under performs and enough guys on defense just lay down, that the team and the program is embarrassed beyond belief.
I haven't heard of too many previous Bo supporters jumping ship. They are "done with" some of the assistants however. And many former players, including some I have spoken with directly both during and after the game, lay most of the blame at the feet of the players. But they acknowledge it is on the coaches to get things corrected and that isn't getting done.
I would prefer any and all of this talk wait until the season is over, but I know it won't!
Bummerbry;35253 said:
Even with your obvious attempt at insult I still don't get it.
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Jarhead Husker;35251 said:
Not sure how you keep Kaz. His guys played hard for about 5 plays and then utterly disappeared.
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Good, reality based post, Bry. It may not be what many of us want to hear, but it's most likely the reality we are in. The reality of firing Bo is not likely, and our ability to draw some of the top shelf coaches will be problematic if we fire a 9-10 win coach, like it or not. Unless SE has a coach in mind that trusts him implicitly. I think it sucks, but I think we will still have the same coaches next year. SE had his out last year to get rid of Bo for issues other than the W-L record, but declined, so I fear we are stuck with him. And, I would be shocked if Bo fires his hand picked OC and DC.......I'm not sure how the Bo supporters still think he is the answer. He seems to have no answers for the disastrous collapses, and he has made poor choices hiring his most critical assistants. Where then are his strengths that merit support? As for the players, you can blame them I guess. But, do they come in to College football knowing everything they need to know? Not usually, but maybe a few of the elite do. The coaches are supposed to develop, prepare and set expectations of performance for these players to get them playing high level College FB. Far more blame lies at the feet of the coaches for what we are seeing. Like was mentioned in another post, "If you see it on the field, it is either coached or allowed"......There are no remaining excuses for performances like we keep seeing against the better teams....Bummerbry;35271 said:
Bummerbry;35271 said:
Bryan I know you respect Bo and are an ardent supporter but facts are facts and Bo has had more than enough opportunities to shine and he has failed every time. Worse than the failures are the examples of miserably coached teams replete with endemic problems. There is always an excuse.
Firing the staff will only delay the reality is Bo is way over his head and eventually he will have to go. HE RUNS THE PROGRAM. No one doubts that. The DC and OC do as he orders and coach the way he wants them too. He will still be in charge and THAT IS the problem. His influence runs through out the program. If you want more of the same, keep BO. If you want change then he has to go.
valiantsailor;35278 said:
I am pretty sure my post was not in any way a post in support of Bo. I am just looking at it logically, in terms of what I believe we are capable of doing in regard to resources.
Bummerbry;35280 said:
Agreed. Cleaning house is not the correct move here. The correct move in a new OC, no TE coach at all, new LB coach and either a new DC that has authority or no DC and Bo take over. Either way Bo should stay, Els, JP and Cotton need to go. You need a QB coach, period and guys who can recruit need to be hired. No more nepotism
OhioHusker;35273 said:
Dude, you said this:
OhioHusker;35146 said:
Hope this explains it. Now if, "I know he'll be back" and "This site is based around supporting Bo regardless of results" are not related, then I understand the confusion and would then be confused myself.
