Coaching Wish List and Your Reason Why?

[Blackshirts093]

Apparently this site was never here prior to Bo Pelini being hired and as long as it is, he'll be the coach!

I dont know why you'd say something so absolute. It is getting harder and harder to justify keeping Bo around, you can feel it on online posts, on Big Red Overreaction, and other places. Not to put words in your mouth, but you didn't really justify why Bo should stay either, you just said he'll be the coach regardless. Which to me is a bit of a copout, but to be fair, you weren't really specifically asked why Bo should stay.

And at risk of getting a bit off-topic, if Bo does get fired, which I think he will either this season or next, I hope this site can handle it. I started coming to BHF as a freshman in high school and am now a second year law student. I've spent a lot of time on BHF over the years and it's a big part of the reason why I really started paying close attention to the team. It seems like the negativity over the past few seasons (which to be fair hasn't really happened/started this) has already driven some of the best posters away and its really only a handful of core folks posting now. It'd be a shame if some of the better posters left again due to negativity.

 

[Guest]

Agreed. Cleaning house is not the correct move here. The correct move in a new OC, no TE coach at all, new LB coach and either a new DC that has authority or no DC and Bo take over. Either way Bo should stay, Els, JP and Cotton need to go. You need a QB coach, period and guys who can recruit need to be hired. No more nepotism

Jack, I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts as to why Bo needs to stay. What are the qualities that makes him redeemable and yet the assistants disposable?

 

[Husker21stb]

I feel like as long as Bo is completely tied to his scheme, and as long as Beck is unwilling to shape the offensive scheme to match the personnel, we will continue to win most of our games and get blown out in a few.

I didn't expect a blowout by Wisconsin, but we've been so unable to play 60 minutes that we knew a loss was coming. If we had a tougher schedule, we would not be 8-2.

 

[Guest]

I feel like as long as Bo is completely tied to his scheme, and as long as Beck is unwilling to shape the offensive scheme to match the personnel, we will continue to win most of our games and get blown out in a few.

I didn't expect a blowout by Wisconsin, but we've been so unable to play 60 minutes that we knew a loss was coming. If we had a tougher schedule, we would not be 8-2.

Spot on, STB. If we swapped places with Florida, for example, would Bo's record be better than Muschamp's?

 

[sho]

Jack, I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts as to why Bo needs to stay. What are the qualities that makes him redeemable and yet the assistants disposable?

Not Jack, nor the answer you probably want to hear, but $$$ is the reason. Bo's contract runs through 2018, I believe. That's around $13Mil to buy him out, and his assistants. Then hire a new staff. You are looking at around $18 million reasons why that won't happen right now.

If I'm ADSE, I want Bo to make some staff changes, let the coaches coach, let Bo be the CEO, I still think Bo is too much of a micromanager (just my opinion, I could be WAY off base here)...in my perfect (pipe dream) scenario, where Bo has to stay, I'd want a staff looking like this:

OC/QB: Bob Cole
RB: Brian White
WR/TE: Fisher
OL/TE: Garrison and Stai

DC/LB: Mike Tressel
DL: Kaz
LB: Foreman (here you can take a chance as he'll be learning how to coach from a great LB coach, and in a great system)
DB: Warren

And split up STs and let Bo oversee that again. I feel with these changes, we will see a better identity on offense and field an aggressive and sound defense.

Also, strange as it may sound, I would really love to make a run at one of the Detmer brothers to come in, be a GA and work with the QBs. Both currently are HS coaches in TX. This would benefit in a few ways, one obviously, they were great QBs and have some coaching ability, both have NFL pension so could afford to be a GA for a few years and they both have strong ties to TX to aide in recruiting. I know they personally can't recruit as a GA, but being HS football coaches in TX, they could open the doors for those that can recruit down there.

 

[nebraskafaninwi]

Not Jack, nor the answer you probably want to hear, but $$$ is the reason. Bo's contract runs through 2018, I believe. That's around $13Mil to buy him out, and his assistants. Then hire a new staff. You are looking at around $18 million reasons why that won't happen right now.

If I'm ADSE, I want Bo to make some staff changes, let the coaches coach, let Bo be the CEO, I still think Bo is too much of a micromanager (just my opinion, I could be WAY off base here)...in my perfect (pipe dream) scenario, where Bo has to stay, I'd want a staff looking like this:

OC/QB: Bob Cole
RB: Brian White
WR/TE: Fisher
OL/TE: Garrison and Stai

DC/LB: Mike Tressel
DL: Kaz
LB: Foreman (here you can take a chance as he'll be learning how to coach from a great LB coach, and in a great system)
DB: Warren

And split up STs and let Bo oversee that again. I feel with these changes, we will see a better identity on offense and field an aggressive and sound defense.

Also, strange as it may sound, I would really love to make a run at one of the Detmer brothers to come in, be a GA and work with the QBs. Both currently are HS coaches in TX. This would benefit in a few ways, one obviously, they were great QBs and have some coaching ability, both have NFL pension so could afford to be a GA for a few years and they both have strong ties to TX to aide in recruiting. I know they personally can't recruit as a GA, but being HS football coaches in TX, they could open the doors for those that can recruit down there.

It would be $7.5 million and would drop to a lower amount once he takes a new job. Thus, roughly $150k a month, which is peanuts. Money is already there to make a change.

 

[Guest]

Not Jack, nor the answer you probably want to hear, but $$$ is the reason. Bo's contract runs through 2018, I believe. That's around $13Mil to buy him out, and his assistants. Then hire a new staff. You are looking at around $18 million reasons why that won't happen right now.

If I'm ADSE, I want Bo to make some staff changes, let the coaches coach, let Bo be the CEO, I still think Bo is too much of a micromanager (just my opinion, I could be WAY off base here)...in my perfect (pipe dream) scenario, where Bo has to stay, I'd want a staff looking like this:

OC/QB: Bob Cole
RB: Brian White
WR/TE: Fisher
OL/TE: Garrison and Stai

DC/LB: Mike Tressel
DL: Kaz
LB: Foreman (here you can take a chance as he'll be learning how to coach from a great LB coach, and in a great system)
DB: Warren

And split up STs and let Bo oversee that again. I feel with these changes, we will see a better identity on offense and field an aggressive and sound defense.

Thanks for the input, Sho. I really want to hear from people who thinks Bo should stay, and their reasons why, because I think it is what will happen, regardless of my opinion. Question:
1. Do you think out tendency to meltdown and/or quit is caused by the assistants and not Bo himself?

 

[sho]

It would be $7.5 million and would drop to a lower amount once he takes a new job. Thus, roughly $150k a month, which is peanuts. Money is already there to make a change.

7.5Mil, that's it? I swore I heard it was more than that. Is that because of the new contract? I thought the main reason he wasn't let go after last season was the lack of financial support from the boosters. Or was it, they wouldn't donate as much if Bo left?

 

[nebraskafaninwi]

7.5Mil, that's it? I swore I heard it was more than that. Is that because of the new contract? I thought the main reason he wasn't let go after last season was the lack of financial support from the boosters. Or was it, they wouldn't donate as much if Bo left?

That would be the new number for just Bo's contract. Florida has to pay 6.8 or 8.6....don't remember which one it was. So Florida will pay out a similar dollar total when it is all said and done. I haven't looked to see what kind of money Michigan is going to have to deal with.

 

[OhioHusker]

How would your feelings change if the Huskers came out and just utterly kicked the crap out of Minnesota? I'm not sure myself.

 

[Bugeaters]

How would your feelings change if the Huskers came out and just utterly kicked the crap out of Minnesota? I'm not sure myself.

Temporary joy, but for me the damage is already done.

 

[OhioHusker]

Temporary joy, but for me the damage is already done.

I agree. Won't ever have long term faith in these coaches again. Plus Pelini is delusional.

 

[sho]

Thanks for the input, Sho. I really want to hear from people who thinks Bo should stay, and their reasons why, because I think it is what will happen, regardless of my opinion. Question:
1. Do you think out tendency to meltdown and/or quit is caused by the assistants and not Bo himself?

Excellent question, for starters, I'm not saying I WANT him to stay, just saying he most likely will because of financial restraints.


As for your question, I think it's caused by Bo and has his hand in everything and micro manages. I think if you can allow him to delegate more, let the coaches coach more, that may help with that. Let the coaches get on the players, and guide them, have him not undress a player on the sideline will be helpful. Let him focus on game management, going for it on 4th down, yelling at refs, etc.

Problem is, I don't think that's in Bo's make-up. That's why if I'm SE, I give him the ultimatum, update staff and become CEO or quit and then take it from there.

 

[sho]

How would your feelings change if the Huskers came out and just utterly kicked the crap out of Minnesota? I'm not sure myself.

I'd be happy for the players and the coaches. It wouldn't change my overall feelings of the direction of the program. One game isn't what I'm looking at when judging this program, the Wisconsin game didn't make me think Bo must leave. I've had nearly 7 plus seasons to make an evaluation. Money being no object, I personally would still be looking for a way to make a change, even if we win the next two games. The problem for me has always been, he's been too good of a coach to fire, but not a good enough coach to get us to the next level. Love what he's done off the field, love the players he's bringing in, and for the most part the lack of off the field issues. I just think he's at his ceiling on what he can get out of a team. As long as Bo is the coach, with the schedule we will continue to have, he will continue to get anywhere from 8-10 wins a season and have 1-2 games where the opponent can name the score against us. I think he's too stubborn to change enough to eliminate the blowout losses and take us to this program to the next level. I think the AD is in between a rock and a hard space, damned if you fire him and if you don't fire him, you'll continue to see embarrassing losses on an annual basis. Bo does 90% of what I want from a head coach, molds these boys into productive young men. They are good citizens, and good football players. They represent the school and the community well. They win 75%+ of the games played, but when it goes bad it goes REALLY bad. It's hard to justify letting him go, but I think it's time for a change.

 

[Korn]

How would your feelings change if the Huskers came out and just utterly kicked the crap out of Minnesota? I'm not sure myself.

Well there is "winning pretty", "Winning ugly" and I've never ever not wanted a Nebraska win of any kind. There is also losing pretty, not a fan of losing but at least when it happens we put up a fight. " Losing ugly" is something that never ever happened around these parts. Too much pride and too many red blooded Nebraska kids to make sure that never happened. They would rather die on the field of play, rather than have that occur. That's where this staff simply doesn't get it. No platooning. No reps for the faithful of any kind. Run your horses into the ground and create that landslide that humiliates them into quitting.

I'll back my team no-matter what. Losing ugly however is bu11$#..................loney. When the coach melts down, the $#eyeT rolls down hill. Pardon me , I'm trying not to get reprimanded but it's the way I feel. Osborne was a cool dude under pressure. His teams were cool under pressure and responded as such. The reason why his teams never quit under duress. I'm still a Husker and I am certainly bleeding red. Just hope I don't bleed out before this is rectified.
:mad1:

 

[Guest]

The thing you have to look at is, do you think Eichorst will pull the plug on Bo. I do not think so especially after last year, the best we can hope for is that he would at least make him make some staff changes. My personal wish list is for Beck to go. The offense continues to put the defense in very bad positions, 3 and out, 3 and out etc.

 

[valiantsailor]

How would your feelings change if the Huskers came out and just utterly kicked the crap out of Minnesota? I'm not sure myself.

I would be happy for the kids, but then thats as far as it goes. Im not interested in Pelini the kids deserve better.

 

[MadRat]

The thing you have to look at is, do you think Eichorst will pull the plug on Bo. I do not think so especially after last year, the best we can hope for is that he would at least make him make some staff changes. My personal wish list is for Beck to go. The offense continues to put the defense in very bad positions, 3 and out, 3 and out etc.

Pretty much this is it in a nutshell. Beck runs a sh!t offense. Same crap different year. Started out the game well, but made no allowances for non-starters. Ameer obviously resolved not to block 250+ pound pass rushers. No substitutions to improve the passing situations. No releases by Ameer at least to nix the linebackers coming hard. No hot receivers on obvious blitz situations. He left an inexperienced QB out to dry.

His biggest faux pas... Not churning clock when it's obviously a losing effort.

 

[Husker316]

I believe regardless of the win/loss record it boils down to 1) The relationship between HCBP and ADSE 2) Booster pressure and how much they pony up. Boosters come in with a large sack of coin, he is gone! I have a huge water cooler bottle filled with quarters only, I am willing to part with it, should it help sway him to rid the program of his bullyish ways. #FirePelini

 

[Peça Rara]

I don't want Scott Frost, or any other coordinator for the job, and I don't want a Nick Saban-type who has been successful at a big-name program. I want somebody who has been HIGHLY successful at a **** school.

What the hell is a "**** school?"