Until this is fixed we’ll never see over 9 wins...It’s the difference between good and great teams.
The D line and O line is where it's at
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Until this is fixed we’ll never see over 9 wins...It’s the difference between good and great teams.
Our tackles are both true sophomores, no red shirt. Boe looks to be a very good guard.
Daniels had no SnC, he will be very different next year.
We have two tackles in the wings for our defense.
We werent good this year, having to play a hobbled Mick proved that, no depth, and players either out of position or just should be the bottom half of the two deep starting.
It'll be better next year, not finished because of experience and depth.
Losing experience with our two injured young D linemen hurt us for next year, and would have helped in spots this year.
Daniels had no SnC, he will be very different next year.
We have two tackles in the wings for our defense.
We werent good this year, having to play a hobbled Mick proved that, no depth, and players either out of position or just should be the bottom half of the two deep starting.
It'll be better next year, not finished because of experience and depth.
Losing experience with our two injured young D linemen hurt us for next year, and would have helped in spots this year.
like your positive attitude NW but, even with S&C factored in and the experience gained I don't see a pass rusher in the lineup. Got a long long way to go. Hope I'm wrong and you are right
I havnt seen our two injured guys play at all, really.
And we have a few positives in our rushers, not necessarily the line.
But we arent missing like we were earlier, we will get, or already have someone.
I think Freedom A. Is seriously under performing...He literally disappears for entire games.
He's a senior isn't he? Problem solved by graduation. He was not a good fit for a DE in a 3-4. Better suited to a 4-3 DE and even at that he was never explosive.
I feel the need to bring up my old mantra. Having known a few S&C coaches over time, I can say with fair confidence that they seldom work in isolation. They try to balance keeping their job, pleasing the head coach, and doing what they want.....they way that they want.
Getting a S&C coach and head coach who are on the same page is ideal.......but it's often rare. In theory, the head coach gives his desire for the finished product, and the S&C coach comes up with the recipe. In reality, the head coach (or assistant coaches) often tinker, and micromanage.
Regardless of what happened before this is why I'm excited now. Scott and Zach really seam to be on the same page. Zach and Gibbie have been cut from the same cloth. It was a cloth designed by Boyd, but not finished by him. Zach has been around the block enough to know what he wants........and fortunately, it's also what Scott wants.
I am almost certain we will like what we see in the upcoming years.......providing this staff recruits athletes with the right clay that Zach can mold. Without the right frame, the right muscle length, the right fibre twitch......and right work ethic Zach (or any S&C coach) will flounder.
In short (too late now), I think WE WILL be able to go toe to toe with the Hawkeye's, the Wisky's and the BIG in general, soon. Everyone is pulling together now, and providing the direction is correct, that is a very, very good thing.
Just think how many of those games we could win next year, with another year in SnC, after losing 5 of 6 by only 1 score each....without being on par with the bigger teams?
J
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Agreed. We got shoved around way too much this year on the DL. Our down 3 were manhandled by the better teams on the schedule, and we aren't going to win the Big10 West giving up 250+ yards rushing to Iowa, Whisky, Illinois, Michigan, etc. Either the Davis boys are going to have to raise their play a notch, or be replaced by better players. Just think how much difference it would have made this year if our DL could have been a little more stout vs the run. Our OL seemed to improve over the season, but our tackles still got schooled in a handful of games. So, like NebSailor mentioned, we will be stuck in mediocre to good range until that changes. I think our LB play is next in line, and I'm hoping guys like Honas and Dixon provide some answers....We also have to be more assignment sound, but I'm betting that will improve next year. There were multiple players who seem incapable of disciplined play, and some will graduate. One thing is for sure, I like the progress of our Offense, and especially our QB and RB......
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Agreed. We got shoved around way too much this year on the DL. Our down 3 were manhandled by the better teams on the schedule, and we aren't going to win the Big10 West giving up 250+ yards rushing to Iowa, Whisky, Illinois, Michigan, etc. Either the Davis boys are going to have to raise their play a notch, or be replaced by better players. Just think how much difference it would have made this year if our DL could have been a little more stout vs the run. Our OL seemed to improve over the season, but our tackles still got schooled in a handful of games. So, like NebSailor mentioned, we will be stuck in mediocre to good range until that changes. I think our LB play is next in line, and I'm hoping guys like Honas and Dixon provide some answers....We also have to be more assignment sound, but I'm betting that will improve next year. There were multiple players who seem incapable of disciplined play, and some will graduate. One thing is for sure, I like the progress of our Offense, and especially our QB and RB......
LT Jaimes got owned by 5* DE Epenesa. We need 4 and 5 star Tackles to handle a 5 star DE. The DL needs to most talent infusion, but the OL needs it as well. Just not as badly.
To me, thats fuel for our soph left tackle.
If you watched the minny wiscy game, you saw minny pushing wiscys d line around some too.
Wiscys dynamic NT was out.
When Daniels in and fresh, we look better, but if he doesnt have his legs, they just run around him with him giving little lateral support when hes tired.
Same thing happening in the minny wiscy game.
Lets hope Fair is decent and DD comes in ready in shape, that and some SnC plus better OLB play will make a nice difference.
I started hitting the "likes" on this thread and then realized I liked 'em all.....good stuff.
As to the above. I agree, but it also reminds me of a NU experiment that went somewhat awry many years ago.
It was when the Florida schools were owning us with their defenses. We looked slow on the line, and the fact that we were stronger didn't seem to matter. An attempt was made to speed up our lines by lightening them up a bit. The result is that we were smaller, weaker.......and still not much faster. I think this was a learning time for our S&C crew.
I think if you listen to the podcast with Zach that Northwood put up, you'll see what was learned. It's a blend of size AND the motor (ie muscles). You need a frame that can handle as much size as possible, while having a motor that can propel it as fast as possible. You can't waste time without the right frame, and/or motor. Now defensive scheme also played a part, but so did the athletes.
The Ellis connection will be HUGE imo. I really believe that we will see a different team in a few years. Between Scott, and Zach, and Ellis, and......well, just about everyone involved with program...I think we will see a different kind of athlete. I think they will pass the eye test, and more.
Yes, I can actually. After three years of Fluffball, my imagination got pretty gruesome.
I read somewhere that our defensive backend played the entire game, while kudos should go to them, thats not ideal, thats thin.
We are thin at LB, inside and out.
The most important position on the D line, we have one that can only give us twenty snaps, less than third a games worth.
Now Daniels is good, but no real SnC for him, and hes young, getting 20 snaps is a credit to him actually, futures bright there with him, add Tony Fair in, maybe one other, it could be a strength.
We are thin at LB, inside and out.
The most important position on the D line, we have one that can only give us twenty snaps, less than third a games worth.
Now Daniels is good, but no real SnC for him, and hes young, getting 20 snaps is a credit to him actually, futures bright there with him, add Tony Fair in, maybe one other, it could be a strength.
J
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I think you are spot on about Daniels. I think he will end up being a force at the NT position. He was hard to move out of the middle this year, and has the frame for a NT, but I think another year of SnC will really help him. I also agree about the LB situation. It will be interesting to see of Honas and Dixon can step up, and who else will be able to be solid contributors for 1st and 2nd teams.
Agreed. We got shoved around way too much this year on the DL. Our down 3 were manhandled by the better teams on the schedule, and we aren't going to win the Big10 West giving up 250+ yards rushing to Iowa, Whisky, Illinois, Michigan, etc. Either the Davis boys are going to have to raise their play a notch, or be replaced by better players. Just think how much difference it would have made this year if our DL could have been a little more stout vs the run. Our OL seemed to improve over the season, but our tackles still got schooled in a handful of games. So, like NebSailor mentioned, we will be stuck in mediocre to good range until that changes. I think our LB play is next in line, and I'm hoping guys like Honas and Dixon provide some answers....We also have to be more assignment sound, but I'm betting that will improve next year. There were multiple players who seem incapable of disciplined play, and some will graduate. One thing is for sure, I like the progress of our Offense, and especially our QB and RB......
Agree on the LB play too...Diedrick Young seemed to get blocked almost every play and couldn’t shed it.
He often let a guy cross his face and ended up on the wrong shoulder to come off that block
Alot of respect to Heinrich and Hannah by some insiders, so ILB looks good going forwards.
OLB will always be a chase, as we should and always need depth there.
The last half of the season he played pretty good, IMO. He just isn't made to play in a 3-4. He would be pretty good as a SLB in a 4-3 because he would have a rush end in there to knock the tight ends off of routes and slow the play down. Credit to him for just coming to work every day and getting better.
