POLL: How many more wins does MR need to be back in 2018

[Huskerfan2000]

I don't think there is a magic number.

No matter the upcoming results, if Scott Frost is willing to come to Lincoln, that will be the end of the Riley regime. But I'm not convinced Frost is ready to make the move. He might want to stay in Orlando for a time. In that case, I think Moos needs to hit a home run with someone else. He'd need to coax Bob Stoops out of retirement (unlikely) or steal away some big-time P5 coach.

If neither Frost nor a home run hire is available, Moos might give Riley one more year, even at 3-9. That would keep the recruiting class together, and buy him time to work on a better strategy.

This decision will shape Moos' career and perhaps the next 10-20 years of Nebraska football. Would you make a decision like that by saying "if he wins seven, he's back," or would you make the decision based mainly on the availability of a home run hire?

3-9 season and you will lose recruits. Hell 6-6 will lose recruits

 

[Huskergod84]

Excellent post.

As to the bolded, I hope (in case Riley is gone) that a coach is in place sooner.

Early signing day is Dec. 20th, (I think) and they said on the radio that 70% of the recruits are expected to sign on that date.

The funny thing is most people wanted that early date, but it will hinder recruiting when making a coaching change.

They cant talk to Frost until his season is over without the permission of UCF, if I understand the rules correctly. So it may have to be later than Dec 20 if UCF says no. Not likely but they could.

 

[cornstar]

Just curious --what is the magic number for MR to be retained--no right answer here folks--just opinions

GBR

I'd like to ask

"How many more wins does Riley need for you (the poster) to want him to come back" or

"How many more wins do you think it will take for ADBM to retain Riley"

I guess I'm slightly confused by some of the answers.

 

[Blatz]

doesn't matter to me if he runs the table and beats the Dallas Cowboys in a special College vs Pro's grudge match. He will never be more than he already is
and that is a very good guy that isn't the type of hard driver to get consistent wins and championships. He needs to go after this year and we need Moos to nail
it with the next coach coming in.

 

[Bugeaters]

I'd like to ask

"How many more wins does Riley need for you (the poster) to want him to come back" or

"How many more wins do you think it will take for ADBM to retain Riley"

I guess I'm slightly confused by some of the answers.

Are you confused because you don't agree with someone elses opinion? Or you don't understand what they mean?

 

[cornstar]

Are you confused because you don't agree with someone elses opinion? Or you don't understand what they mean?

I'm confused because I don't quite understand the context of some of their answers.

Will people be okay with only going 7-5 and retaining Riley, or do people think that Moos will keep Riley if he goes 7-5?

If I'm confused by someone's answer, I'll ask them to clarify.​

 

[busticket]

I think 4-1 with a close loss to PSU makes the discussion at least interesting. Remember how bad they drilled the Wolverines.

4-1 while being napalmed at PSU makes it pretty easy to part ways.

 

[Huskergod84]

I don't think there is a magic number.

No matter the upcoming results, if Scott Frost is willing to come to Lincoln, that will be the end of the Riley regime. But I'm not convinced Frost is ready to make the move. He might want to stay in Orlando for a time. In that case, I think Moos needs to hit a home run with someone else. He'd need to coax Bob Stoops out of retirement (unlikely) or steal away some big-time P5 coach.

If neither Frost nor a home run hire is available, Moos might give Riley one more year, even at 3-9. That would keep the recruiting class together, and buy him time to work on a better strategy.

This decision will shape Moos' career and perhaps the next 10-20 years of Nebraska football. Would you make a decision like that by saying "if he wins seven, he's back," or would you make the decision based mainly on the availability of a home run hire?

I highly doubt 3-9 would keep the recruiting class together. Heck Mikes seat is RED HOT right now. He would have NO margin for error next year so not sure even if he is brought back he keeps this recruiting class intact. They read the boards and hear whats being said on TV and radio and know Mike Riley is not real popular with the fan base right now so if they are coming to play for Mike Riley they likely dont come here because he wont be here long. If they are coming to play for the N then the coach wont matter a whole lot.

 

[Removed Spleen of Jordan]

doesn't matter to me if he runs the table and beats the Dallas Cowboys in a special College vs Pro's grudge match. .

That reminds me of a story from when the college all stars used to play the Super Bowl champs in an exhibition game. After Dallas won the super bowl and Nebraska had just won the National Championship in 1971, Tom Landry was preparing his team in the locker room and kept saying Nebraska instead of the all stars when saying we have to stop this or that. Leroy Jordan spoke up and corrected him and said "Coach it's the all stars, not Nebraska." Landry replied saying he had misspoke. Jordan then quipped "that's a relief coach because I don't know if we can beat Nebraska."

 

[Doc Holiday]

Win all but Penn St. AND play Penn St. Tough and Riley will get another season or 2.
loose any more than that and the sun will set on the "Riley Experience".....
A name that I'm fairly sure is on the short last of our new A.D. is and should be Les Miles....not alot has been said about him other than a passing gesture or so but he is a viable candidate for the job and I'm sure is more than a little interested in coaching at dear ol NU



Doc.

 

[Dunbar]

I voted 4-1 because I think that would make the decision interesting or at least debated. I have to think the die is already cast however. You don't fire the AD to keep the current HC.

I agree with this and that's how I voted. For me, personally, the choice is the latter, but if he's able to get to a bowl game, and like others have said, play inspired football in all games, even the 1 loss, and arguments can be made.

But like Spleen stated - I think it's more likely that the die is cast because I can't see Riley changing his spots.

 

[cornstar]

A name that I'm fairly sure is on the short last of our new A.D. is and should be Les Miles....not alot has been said about him other than a passing gesture or so but he is a viable candidate for the job and I'm sure is more than a little interested in coaching at dear ol NU



Doc.

And while better than what we have now, it wouldn't be much better.

I'm hoping that Moos is more forward thinking than that, but with the interview with Moos just saw, I'm feeling less and less optimistic about getting this program heading in the right direction.

 

[Doc Holiday]

And while better than what we have now, it wouldn't be much better.

I'm hoping that Moos is more forward thinking than that, but with the interview with Moos just saw, I'm feeling less and less optimistic about getting this program heading in the right direction.

Well I can say I did try to tell you all that Moos is more of an evaluate first make a move last kind of guy but I also know for a first hand fact mind you that a move to a coach who will embrace who Nebraska has been, Should be, is foremost on his mind....what he will see for himself is little has changed in Coach Riley's Offensive scheme.....and he will also see first hand now as he attends the rest of Nebraska's games that what he has is a Square Peg and a Round Hole.....in the end all your gonna get done is a heck of alot of hammerin without getting anyplace.
Moos is no dummy let me assure you of this.....one thing in our favor is he remembers what fit here and worked here under Devaney and Osborne and even Solich (who I am sure given the chance would have wound up bringing in the read option game and intertwined it....molded it along with the Osborne Option Game into a true Hybrid Running/Play Action Passing Offensive system....but he didn't get that chance now did he !)
Moos will make the right choice when that time comes....me I would rather see it happen asap and get on with rebuilding in the right direction and stop wasting valuable time and resources....and the fact that I am sick to death of getting manhandled by the likes of Ohio St., Wisconsin, etc figures in also.

Go Big Red.

Doc.

 

[cornstar]

Well I can say I did try to tell you all that Moos is more of an evaluate first make a move last kind of guy but I also know for a first hand fact mind you that a move to a coach who will embrace who Nebraska has been, Should be, is foremost on his mind....what he will see for himself is little has changed in Coach Riley's Offensive scheme.....and he will also see first hand now as he attends the rest of Nebraska's games that what he has is a Square Peg and a Round Hole.....in the end all your gonna get done is a heck of alot of hammerin without getting anyplace.
Moos is no dummy let me assure you of this.....one thing in our favor is he remembers what fit here and worked here under Devaney and Osborne and even Solich (who I am sure given the chance would have wound up bringing in the read option game and intertwined it....molded it along with the Osborne Option Game into a true Hybrid Running/Play Action Passing Offensive system....but he didn't get that chance now did he !)
Moos will make the right choice when that time comes....me I would rather see it happen asap and get on with rebuilding in the right direction and stop wasting valuable time and resources....and the fact that I am sick to death of getting manhandled by the likes of Ohio St., Wisconsin, etc figures in also.

Go Big Red.

Doc.

Good call.

In the AD/ new coach thread, I referenced the 1620 USC interview in which ADBM said he prefers a Chip Kelly offense and a real Blackshirt defense.

You may have more inside info than the rest of us, but that interview is a good listen for the rest of us.

How it shakes down.....I have no clue.

 

[Red Storm Rising]

Win all but Penn St. AND play Penn St. Tough and Riley will get another season or 2.
loose any more than that and the sun will set on the "Riley Experience".....
A name that I'm fairly sure is on the short last of our new A.D. is and should be Les Miles....not alot has been said about him other than a passing gesture or so but he is a viable candidate for the job and I'm sure is more than a little interested in coaching at dear ol NU



Doc.

Welcome back Doc

GBR

 

[Huskergod84]

Win all but Penn St. AND play Penn St. Tough and Riley will get another season or 2.
loose any more than that and the sun will set on the "Riley Experience".....
A name that I'm fairly sure is on the short last of our new A.D. is and should be Les Miles....not alot has been said about him other than a passing gesture or so but he is a viable candidate for the job and I'm sure is more than a little interested in coaching at dear ol NU



Doc.

I also wouldnt argue with Les Miles being our next coach. I really think LSU was stupid to get rid of him. And listening to him do the game on tv I think he would be MORE than happy to come here. His name would definitely be on my short list.

 

[sho]

Win all but Penn St. AND play Penn St. Tough and Riley will get another season or 2.
loose any more than that and the sun will set on the "Riley Experience".....
A name that I'm fairly sure is on the short last of our new A.D. is and should be Les Miles....not alot has been said about him other than a passing gesture or so but he is a viable candidate for the job and I'm sure is more than a little interested in coaching at dear ol NU



Doc.

I really hope Les isn't in the running. He's a great recruiter, but in my opinion, an average at best coach. He'd be a Callahan 2.0. The main reason for his success at LSU, he just had better Jimmies and Joes for the most part.

I've got a short list of coaches I'd love to see in Lincoln, if Riley does leave. #1 would be Matt Campbell, his buy-out is stupid, but I'd want him first, if we have to make a change, he would be one I would hope would be on Moos' short list.

 

[sho]

Good call.

In the AD/ new coach thread, I referenced the 1620 USC interview in which ADBM said he prefers a Chip Kelly offense and a real Blackshirt defense.

You may have more inside info than the rest of us, but that interview is a good listen for the rest of us.

How it shakes down.....I have no clue.

I'm sure Chip is also a viable candidate, if there's an opening. I'm really torn on that. I actually enjoyed his offense at Oregon. It was fun to watch. But then I HATE him for ruining my Eagles. Had to go back to an Andy Reid disciple to fix it, And the concern I have for Chip, with more and more teams running some variation of the spread, getting a good passing QB with mobility is going to be hard. Going to the less mobile QB that Riley seems fond of is actually more of a niche now, and may be the way to separate Nebraska from so many teams running a version of the spread. Give Nebraska the unique identity that it once had, just a different one.

 

[DrThunder]

I'm sure Chip is also a viable candidate, if there's an opening. I'm really torn on that. I actually enjoyed his offense at Oregon. It was fun to watch. But then I HATE him for ruining my Eagles. Had to go back to an Andy Reid disciple to fix it, And the concern I have for Chip, with more and more teams running some variation of the spread, getting a good passing QB with mobility is going to be hard. Going to the less mobile QB that Riley seems fond of is actually more of a niche now, and may be the way to separate Nebraska from so many teams running a version of the spread. Give Nebraska the unique identity that it once had, just a different one.

Yeah I thought it was kinda funny that ADBM in that interview mentions Chip Kelly by name and everyone immediately says "Frost"...how abt the name he actually said? lol

 

[Husker94]

I would have fired Mike Riley after the loss to Directional Illinois, but since that didn't happen...

If Mike Riley wants to be the head coach of Nebraska in 2018, he absolutely has to win out. That would put NU at 8-4 and while I wouldn't like it personally, it would justify one more year.