If they just gave Rhule $9 mill per year then they can fork out the money for assts. Minimum $9 mill.
My note to Coach Joseph.
- Thread starter Doc Holiday
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Listen, I'm a big Mickey Joseph fan. Early on, I started getting a bunch of 'warm, fuzzies' about the possibility of him becoming the permanent head coach.
But a program leader can't lead if he's being undercut by one of his assistants. I'm not saying Joseph would do that buuuuuuut he holds a lot of power with the players -- and with the fans. If Rhule is going to get off to a fast start, he needs EVERYBODY on his side.
The next few months are going to be challenging enough for Rhule and his new staff to all get on the same page in the very best of situations. The last thing a new coaching staff needs is dissension among the players or the coaches -- or both.
Yep. So he needs to get on-board and pay the man. Otherwise this is going to go south in a hurry.
You just paid a head coach 9 million. Someone who hasnt even stepped foot on campus. I think Mickey way more than proved he is worth 1 million.
It better be closer to the 11 mill. If they can afford 9 mill for Rhule they can afford 10 to 11 mill for assts. So Rhule needs to stop jacking around and pay MJ the 1 mill he's asking for all the rolls Matt wants him to take on.
Yes, it was. They were one of the worst offenses in the NFL.
Now, as far as MJ goes. If Rhule doesn't feel Mickey is qualified to be the OC and all the responsibilities that go along with that position the next question is "How many WR coaches are making 1 million per year in college football?" If there are others, like the guy at OSU that keeps churning out All-Americans, then by all means pay MJ the mill and be done with it. If there are no other WR coaches (assuming this is the position he returns to) making 1 million per year then offer him the 750k and if he says no move on. Rhule cannot allow a potential position coach to hold this program hostage with salary demands. He has already been compensated for his time as interim head coach. That 3-6 record he accomplished does not warrant a 1 million dollar contract as a WR coach unless it's market value with others in college football.
JMO...Fire away.
Edit- just checked highest paid WR coaches in college football. If MJ won't take 750k to stay at Nebraska wish him the best in his future endeavors.
The highest-paid wide receivers coaches in college football
- 1. Dameyune Craig, Texas A&M -- $600,000
- 2. Cale Gundy, Oklahoma -- $535,000
- 3. David Johnson, Tennessee -- $505,000
- 4. Dennis Simmons, Oklahoma -- $460,000
- 5. Jacob Peeler, Ole Miss -- $425,000
- 6. Kasey Dunn, Oklahoma State -- $410,000
- 7. Darrin Chiaverini, Colorado -- $400,000
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Mj was offered Assoc HC, WR coach, passing game coordinator and RC. Those 4 titles right there should get him over 1 mill imo. So Mickey asking for 1 mill for all those responsibilities should be easy for Rhule to say, Yes.
Where is this info coming from? Who offered? Why would Ruhle take a job where the admins handcuff his ability to manage his staff? This doesn't make any sense. Associate Head coach? We don't even know if he's on the same page as Ruhle. RC? How many linemen has Mickey recruited? I'm guessing none. WRs are easy to get in the portal. Linemen are developed through recruiting.
Passing game Coordinator? He understands completely the OC and Ruhle's plans for the offense ? Wait. We don't have an OC yet for MJ to figure out how to coordinate his passing attack.
This is CRA-CRA!!
I think it makes sense in the short term. Keep Mickey around a year to do his thing and help the transition. Meantime - they find him a legit G5 HC job he can slide into - this is the "grease" I mentioned when this offer came up last night. Or we keep paying him the cheddar he wants if he decides he likes the situation here with Rhule. Mickey is way too blunt and honest to be disruptive - he is not going behind anyone's back to cause problems.
Thanks Dog. Now I don't have to respond to SUH. This pretty much sums it up. Right now all of these are titles, nothing more.
First, I would have been happy if MJ had been named HC, but I understand why he wasn't. Second, from what I am reading, I don't think he was ever led to believe that he was going to be HC at the end of this process. I think the process was straight forward from the get-go.
I think MJ has a lot of class and is a team player. He would not be disruptive or a distraction as an assistant coach. He would be a major asset. He knows the team and the players. He could be that corner stone that helps keep this team together. He is also an outstanding recruiter.
From what I am reading, the initial staff Rhule has put together will have strong recruiting ties in Texas and Florida. Adding Joseph to the mix will give them strong Louisianna and Nebraska presence to boot. To me it looks like a win/win situation.
I think MJ has a lot of class and is a team player. He would not be disruptive or a distraction as an assistant coach. He would be a major asset. He knows the team and the players. He could be that corner stone that helps keep this team together. He is also an outstanding recruiter.
From what I am reading, the initial staff Rhule has put together will have strong recruiting ties in Texas and Florida. Adding Joseph to the mix will give them strong Louisianna and Nebraska presence to boot. To me it looks like a win/win situation.
None of us knows just how bad the blood is between them. Is it something that can be patched up and forgotten?
I would think it rare for an incoming coach to hire someone who wanted the same job. But I think this is an unusual situation in which Mickey can be a tremendous help with a wide range of duties.
For at least one season, I hope it works out. Maybe after that a G5 position opens and Mickey takes it. I'm not too worried about him. He's an excellent coach who will land on his feet.
I don't buy this bad blood over the firing BS. First of all, the firing was justified. Second, there is no profession that has a higher firing rate than football coaching. Hell, the first thing MJ did as HC was fire Chinander. Third, the HC is often not the decider on who gets fired or retained. I bet MJ has dozens of coaching friends who have been fired. This whole BS makes no sense.
They had a phone convo last night and will talk more tomorrow before Rhules presser about the money aspect. And I'm just the messenger like ATC was. Also SHO I believed said the same thing in o e of these posts as well.
Love the letter Doc, top notch applause for what Mickey did in the three months as head coach. He has been a ground breaking interim head coach and a dynamic leader for the young men who wear Scarlett and Cream. Unfortunately, things don’t always go the way for some as they should. Everyone here knows it wasn’t lack of effort, caring for the young men, and commitment to a program that he and everyone here loves. We are at a period where we need someone who has had experience in this department of the rebuild the University deserves. I, and I’m sure 99% of the people who follow this board, wanted Mickey to get a shot at the full time job. it doesn’t always go the way that a fairy tale ending should, but sometimes the change that is needed is a view from the outside that not only honors old traditions, but establishes new ones. New ones that continue to inspire the young men to bleed the Scarlett and Cream for future years, similar to how yourself and the fellow former players do as well. Is he a sure thing? We won’t know until next fall. Was Mickey the better option? We do t know that it wouldn’t ended up like it has been for almost 10 years either. Nebraska’s newest state slogan also pertains to the football team, “It’s not for everyone.” There is a ton of pressure and all eyes are clearly on head man. Can it be consuming? Yes, it should be. The standards are high and fans expect nothing less than hard nosed competitive football.
Does that come from the same source that said Rhule was sitting out a year or that he had no interest in Nebraska
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