Well said Doc! That was a helluva good letter expressing thanks to Mickey. He was in a tough spot and got the players to keep working, and it paid off with the win vs Iowa.
My note to Coach Joseph.
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In talking with some personal acquaintances, most are happy, or at least in a wait-n-see mode. Of those that aren't, I can't honestly tell if their discontent is they are hurt that their pick wasn't selected, or a true belief that Matt was a bad hire. The former position doesn't bother me. I'll put trust in Trev, the search committee, and the other sources Trev has contacted. The latter position is always a little troubling because depending on their expertise and track record one wonders do they see something I don't.
It has been rumored that Trev has talked to Urban for some insight. If true, I would love to know what he recommended. I'm not an Urban fan, but one thing he is, and that is pretty good at assessing football situations, and coaches.
It has been rumored that Trev has talked to Urban for some insight. If true, I would love to know what he recommended. I'm not an Urban fan, but one thing he is, and that is pretty good at assessing football situations, and coaches.
Winning will make the butt stop hurting. Because winning is better than Preparation H.
If Former Head Coach Mickey Joseph isn't happy with the way things worked out. he should get offers to be a G5 head coach. Make a million bucks a year, show everyone you deserved to be head coach and prepare for opportunity here in the future. He's young, who knows what the future holds 5-10 years down the road.
I said the first week he took over, he was the right guy- to finish the season. He got the guys enthusiastic and trying hard. I didn't think getting rid of Chinander was wise, but it was absolutely the best move.
Thanks FHCMJ- you did what was needed. Hope you're here next year doing your usual bangup job with recruiting.
I take no joy in saying you haven't shown you are ready to take over at Nebraska.
The proof will be in the pudding- will he be a hot HC prospect at the G5 level? Maybe even interview for a P5 school? Let's see how many interviews he gets.
I said the first week he took over, he was the right guy- to finish the season. He got the guys enthusiastic and trying hard. I didn't think getting rid of Chinander was wise, but it was absolutely the best move.
Thanks FHCMJ- you did what was needed. Hope you're here next year doing your usual bangup job with recruiting.
I take no joy in saying you haven't shown you are ready to take over at Nebraska.
The proof will be in the pudding- will he be a hot HC prospect at the G5 level? Maybe even interview for a P5 school? Let's see how many interviews he gets.
Mickey is 54 - I think people forget that. Wait ten years for a Power 5 offer? Doubtful he gets his first real P5 job when he is 65.
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Dang I'm old. Younger than I doesn't mean young anymore. If his goal is to be a head coach at the P5 level, he has to make his move now or accept it will never be. 3 years of success at a G5 and and catch the eye of the P5 is his best chance. It's now or never.
If that’s what he wants just give him what he’s asking. I think they’ll find it was a good investment. Hold the team together, an ace recruiter, and considering he’s put so many in the NFL he must know something about development. We’ve all read his story, so we know how much he cares about kids…….you can’t put a price on that. If he wants to run a program then he better bolt. But if he wants to impact kid’s lives, give some stability for his family as well as letting his own kids grow up in a pretty wholesome environment, he could do much worse.
Personally I would be very surprised if Mick isn't retained in one form or another on the new staff. He just has too much to offer the program.
If you give MJ $1million/year, what do you give the other seven coaches? Of course, the two coordinators get paid quite a bit more, so, what's your budget?
I'm not saying don't pay Mickey (although I don't think he's worth $1m/yr). I'm asking those who say salaries are out of control- WHAT THE ...???
I'm not saying don't pay Mickey (although I don't think he's worth $1m/yr). I'm asking those who say salaries are out of control- WHAT THE ...???
You're right about varying prices for different positions, and how the payment structure should be assembled to keep everyone happy. Do we go back to something like Riley had with the highest paid assistant being the special team's coordinator? Or do we stay with the typical hierarchy with coordinators top and then on down? Before I made my post above I thought long and hard before posting. I'm asking for a WR's coach to get more than our highest paid coordinator (Whipple) ever got. This is why I've been hesitant to 'break the bank' on head coaching pay. But I've come to the conclusion that if we're going to make a run at bigger things in the win-loss column we're going to need to spend. That's very hard for me to say.......and I might regret it later.....but the big business of college sports has pushed us into this position imo. It's where we are and if we're going to play we're going to need to pay......ugh.
One thing to keep in mind is that inflation and a devaluing dollar makes today's wages not quite so extreme. It's simple.....the more we spend, the less it is worth.....in buying power. Still too high? Yes, but by the end of Matt's 8 year contract it will hard to know just what the buying power of his contract will be worth. If inflation and devaluation continue at their escalating rate......
I'm thinking of one couple I know. He worked for three dollars an hour for years and eventually worked up to 15 dollars an hour, his wife worked odd jobs for half that. They were smart with their money put some away, helped their kids when the could, bought a fixer-up house, and fixed it up on their own, invested a little in the Market, and at retirement were millionaires equity wise. I asked him how it felt. His answer.....'bout the same as when we started".
Bad blood between Rhule and Joseph over the way Rhule took the LSU OC and then fired him.
Your assuming that all assistants NEED the same pay , MJ should get his asking price for holding the ship together and what he can do at wr coach . His pay doesn’t effect the other position coaches pay
"Hey JimmieJoe, Matt Ruhle here. I wanted to offer you the Offensive coordinator position here at Nebraska."
"Great! Do I get to help pick my staff?"
"Absolutely! But there is one caveat. The Uni has a favorite son- you may know him- Mickey?"
"Oh yeah! He's a great recruiter and I'd love to have him on the staff Anything else?"
"Yeah, he's gonna get paid the same as you and at least 2x what the other coaches get."
"Sooo- he's basically untouchable and may be able to go over our heads to the administration."
"Yeah. They may be grooming him to take my place at the first sign of trouble."
"Sounds great!! I'm on my way!!"
"Great! Do I get to help pick my staff?"
"Absolutely! But there is one caveat. The Uni has a favorite son- you may know him- Mickey?"
"Oh yeah! He's a great recruiter and I'd love to have him on the staff Anything else?"
"Yeah, he's gonna get paid the same as you and at least 2x what the other coaches get."
"Sooo- he's basically untouchable and may be able to go over our heads to the administration."
"Yeah. They may be grooming him to take my place at the first sign of trouble."
"Sounds great!! I'm on my way!!"
Doesn’t matter , every coach has his own contract. Just like on all the staffs in the NCAA
Point taken, but it still doesn't answer perception. He needs to get buy-in right off the bat. In a perfect world Mickey would have excepted the 750 k. But if he doesn't, and is awarded the 1 mil the next simplest is to give each coordinator 1.1 mil. It's going to be interesting to see what Trev has budgeted for assistants.
