COVID-19 in Central Nebraska

[redfred]

Just reading where tests for antibody/immunity are being finalized, within two weeks
Then ramp up in the amounts of millions per day.

So, in a month, we are going to be facing another dilema.
Millions will have been tested, tens of millions, those who are immune,or carry the antibody are free to go about their lives, those who don't have it, will still need to social distance.

At some point, it'll be life as usual, except for some. Understand, those who are immune don't carry it, and can potentially interact with those who've never had it,or aren't immune.

Our society has some big decisions coming real soon.

Agreed, but before we make those decisions we needs lots, and lots, of data and testing. There will tough decisions, but the only way they will be fair at all is if we have the right information. We don't have that currently, so we still have some steps to go through.

It's never been mandated like this might need to be, but chemo patients have taken social precautions for years. The scale and magnitude of the decisions coming up will be daunting......and in this litigious society that we live in, it might be wise that everyone be prepared for regulations that might not seem fair......but necessary.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Agreed, but before we make those decisions we needs lots, and lots, of data and testing. There will tough decisions, but the only way they will be fair at all is if we have the right information. We don't have that currently, so we still have some steps to go through.

It's never been mandated like this might need to be, but chemo patients have taken social precautions for years. The scale and magnitude of the decisions coming up will be daunting......and in this litigious society that we live in, it might be wise that everyone be prepared for regulations that might not seem fair......but necessary.

Understand, a plan needs to develop before data comes in.
These tests are simple pinprick finger tests like insulin tests,can be done by the millions per day.
So, those regulations are going to have to fit, like set asides for access type scenarios we see happening, older folks at certain hours in the stores etc, where both groups share the burden.

Of course, in this case, it'll be every non antibodied person, then those with the antibody.
Strange new world we're entering.

 

[redfred]

Understand, a plan needs to develop before data comes in.
These tests are simple pinprick finger tests like insulin tests,can be done by the millions per day.
So, those regulations are going to have to fit, like set asides for access type scenarios we see happening, older folks at certain hours in the stores etc, where both groups share the burden.

Of course, in this case, it'll be every non antibodied person, then those with the antibody.
Strange new world we're entering.

Indeed. It would be prudent however to have an idea of what numbers we are talking about and where they are located...…...ethnic history might play a part here.....no one knows for sure.

I agree …..IT WILL BE A STRANGE NEW WORLD......and this just might be the beginning.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Indeed. It would be prudent however to have an idea of what numbers we are talking about and where they are located...…...ethnic history might play a part here.....no one knows for sure.

I agree …..IT WILL BE A STRANGE NEW WORLD......and this just might be the beginning.

Thats the problem, almost no one has been virus tested who likely didn't have it.
This test is far easier and faster,uses current equipment etc. It simply looks for a protein, not a tiny virus.
But anyways, it'll hit testing numbers the first week blowing by the virus tests we currently have.
In so doing, people who never had symptoms, or didn't even relate any proplems they'd previously had to the virus, which Ive seen numbers anywheres from 3% to 30% in number, of people already beating it on their own, having the antibodies, and never know.
Those numbers come from the princess ship, and a town in italy called Oh, where each was isolated, and everyone was tested.

So, no doubt we have many people who are already immune, they just wont know it til these tests go live.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

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[Uenth]

Meanwhile, a bad day in Nebraska. Too many new cases in GI, Omaha and Lincoln as well. Most of the Central Nebraska cases are going back to the Doniphan party, according to the rumor mill. Swfit now has 15 positive and a lot of people with symptoms too mild to be tested.

People in GI are screaming at the top of their lungs for Swift to be closed down right now. My main question is what happens to the meat if someone with active COVID is helping to process the meat?

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Meanwhile, a bad day in Nebraska. Too many new cases in GI, Omaha and Lincoln as well. Most of the Central Nebraska cases are going back to the Doniphan party, according to the rumor mill. Swfit now has 15 positive and a lot of people with symptoms too mild to be tested.

People in GI are screaming at the top of their lungs for Swift to be closed down right now. My main question is what happens to the meat if someone with active COVID is helping to process the meat?

Nothing. Eventually, and not too long, the virus, if any exists,will die.
The problem would be handling it, just like touching an infected door knob, but I don't know how long the virus would persist, but certainly not any longer than whats already been said.
I could guess and say two days, and thats likely too long, but it could be too short, but less likely.

Oh, and no, they shouldn't close for duration, clean up and better testing of employees, but people need to eat.
Bats naturally carry this virus, cows don't. The meat eventuall would be safe no matter what.
It's spreading person to person, not cow to person, unless somehow a person touches where another person touches the cow directly, likely within minutes, but again, as to time, just a guess.

 

[Uenth]

Nothing. Eventually, and not too long, the virus, if any exists,will die.
The problem would be handling it, just like touching an infected door knob, but I don't know how long the virus would persist, but certainly not any longer than whats already been said.
I could guess and say two days, and thats likely too long, but it could be too short, but less likely.

Oh, and no, they shouldn't close for duration, clean up and better testing of employees, but people need to eat.
Bats naturally carry this virus, cows don't. The meat eventuall would be safe no matter what.
It's spreading person to person, not cow to person, unless somehow a person touches where another person touches the cow directly, likely within minutes, but again, as to time, just a guess.

I agree that the plant needs to stay open. The problem is that people are showing mild symptoms but still working. Therefore they are more than likely infecting other people who will likely infect other people and thus the pandemic will continue in GI.

Thus, one of the many reasons I have begun to wear my mask while walking the dogs and riding bikes with hub. We do it: walk Joe, walk Missy, ride bikes. Then I take the masks downstairs and throw them in the washer along with anything else that needs to be washed so that they are ready to be worn tomorrow.

I really do NOT like walking the dogs while being masked but our cases are escalating far too rapidly for my comfort level. Since you generate a slight breeze while biking, that doesn't suck as much as dog walking. So it goes. This too shall pass.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

I agree that the plant needs to stay open. The problem is that people are showing mild symptoms but still working. Therefore they are more than likely infecting other people who will likely infect other people and thus the pandemic will continue in GI.

Thus, one of the many reasons I have begun to wear my mask while walking the dogs and riding bikes with hub. We do it: walk Joe, walk Missy, ride bikes. Then I take the masks downstairs and throw them in the washer along with anything else that needs to be washed so that they are ready to be worn tomorrow.

I really do NOT like walking the dogs while being masked but our cases are escalating far too rapidly for my comfort level. Since you generate a slight breeze while biking, that doesn't suck as much as dog walking. So it goes. This too shall pass.

And here lies that dichotomy. If a person tests negative, they don't have the antibodies, and will continue to have to take the smart measures you're currently doing.

However, the rest will have the antibodies, will be immune, and be free to do whatever, wont infect others, just get their lives back.

 

[East Coast Husker]

Nurse friend of mine said they had cases in her hospital where patients had all the signs of the virus and tested negative. They were alarmed by this, and dug into it and discovered some nurses were not swabbing properly—the swab has to go like 5 inches up the nose, and they weren’t doing that. And that has me concerned about a some of the negative tests—were they swabbed correctly? Good to have a new/better test out there.

 

[Uenth]

Nurse friend of mine said they had cases in her hospital where patients had all the signs of the virus and tested negative. They were alarmed by this, and dug into it and discovered some nurses were not swabbing properly—the swab has to go like 5 inches up the nose, and they weren’t doing that. And that has me concerned about a some of the negative tests—were they swabbed correctly? Good to have a new/better test out there.

As with all things, tests are only as good as they are given.

 

[kfr1631]

Nurse friend of mine said they had cases in her hospital where patients had all the signs of the virus and tested negative. They were alarmed by this, and dug into it and discovered some nurses were not swabbing properly—the swab has to go like 5 inches up the nose, and they weren’t doing that. And that has me concerned about a some of the negative tests—were they swabbed correctly? Good to have a new/better test out there.

Friend had the test given to him. Said it was horrible. Felt like the swab was lodged behind and above his eyes, and had to be held there for a bit. If I have to get it, strap me down because I don't know it I could take it.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Nurse friend of mine said they had cases in her hospital where patients had all the signs of the virus and tested negative. They were alarmed by this, and dug into it and discovered some nurses were not swabbing properly—the swab has to go like 5 inches up the nose, and they weren’t doing that. And that has me concerned about a some of the negative tests—were they swabbed correctly? Good to have a new/better test out there.

That is the ongoing concern of the relapse rumors.
If some of us aren't doing it right, in the other countries reporting such relapses, if after they were 'over' the virus, then incorrectly retested for virus still in them, then came back later as positive, thoughts are, they were incorrectly diagnosed as over the virus the first time.
So, if you hear these stories, just hold on, we need to know if the tests were done right from the get go.

 

[Uenth]

Friend had the test given to him. Said it was horrible. Felt like the swab was lodged behind and above his eyes, and had to be held there for a bit. If I have to get it, strap me down because I don't know it I could take it.

I've heard that -- yes, they have to dig deep into your nostrils/sinus cavety to property get a sample. Apparently, there are a lot of false negatives because the tests weren't administered properly.

 

[Uenth]

The latest in the central nebraska region.

Our numbers go up every day but not as much as they were a few days ago. But the lack of testing is a huge problem. We were supposed to get caregivers tested for 5 days and we've been cut down to 75 for 2 days; due to the lack of available testing.

It was in the paper this morning that Case New Holland is shutting production line down for a minimum of 2 weeks starting Thursday. We had our PM on our central air this morning. Our technician said that he has a relative working there. They told him that 2 employees have family members who either tested positive or are displaying all the symptoms of COVID-19. Also a female employee with put on Family Medical Leave because her OB told her that CNH was not safe for her pregnancy due to the work environment (not 6 foot disance on the lines/family members/etc.).

I was really on the fence about getting the PM done on our central air this morning. Was hoping to get this done before COVID hit our area but it's usually a 4-6 wait from the time you make an appointment until they can get to you. Technician was extremely nice and I actually ended up feeling bad for him. He would prefer that they close up for a couple of weeks but they're an essential service. I had my container of Clorox Wipes downstairs and went into the furnace room after he left and wiped down the outside of the air conditioner, light switches, door knobs, handrail on the basement steps and the inside and outside door handles. I had the gate propped open so he didn't have to mess that. Anyway, that's done and we shouldn't need anyone in the house now until we have furnace pm done in the fall. I hope by then that we are through the COVID-19 crap.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

The latest in the central nebraska region.

Our numbers go up every day but not as much as they were a few days ago. But the lack of testing is a huge problem. We were supposed to get caregivers tested for 5 days and we've been cut down to 75 for 2 days; due to the lack of available testing.

It was in the paper this morning that Case New Holland is shutting production line down for a minimum of 2 weeks starting Thursday. We had our PM on our central air this morning. Our technician said that he has a relative working there. They told him that 2 employees have family members who either tested positive or are displaying all the symptoms of COVID-19. Also a female employee with put on Family Medical Leave because her OB told her that CNH was not safe for her pregnancy due to the work environment (not 6 foot disance on the lines/family members/etc.).

I was really on the fence about getting the PM done on our central air this morning. Was hoping to get this done before COVID hit our area but it's usually a 4-6 wait from the time you make an appointment until they can get to you. Technician was extremely nice and I actually ended up feeling bad for him. He would prefer that they close up for a couple of weeks but they're an essential service. I had my container of Clorox Wipes downstairs and went into the furnace room after he left and wiped down the outside of the air conditioner, light switches, door knobs, handrail on the basement steps and the inside and outside door handles. I had the gate propped open so he didn't have to mess that. Anyway, that's done and we shouldn't need anyone in the house now until we have furnace pm done in the fall. I hope by then that we are through the COVID-19 crap.

If you keep no company, that hvac can be run as normal, as it removes the moisture from the air, it helps in the carrying of the vifus in the air.
Humidity,or,higher humidity helps slow any airborne infection.
Hang in there, let us know how those folks you mentioned fare.

 

[Uenth]

If you keep no company, that hvac can be run as normal, as it removes the moisture from the air, it helps in the carrying of the vifus in the air.
Humidity,or,higher humidity helps slow any airborne infection.
Hang in there, let us know how those folks you mentioned fare.

I have a strict no people in the house policy right now. Was very tempted to postpone our HVAC appointment but they are pretty rigourous in screening their employees every morning. I'll feel much better 2 weeks from now when we are both not feeling any adverse symptoms.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

I have a strict no people in the house policy right now. Was very tempted to postpone our HVAC appointment but they are pretty rigourous in screening their employees every morning. I'll feel much better 2 weeks from now when we are both not feeling any adverse symptoms.

It is a nagging doubt, no doubt about that.

I just wonder how the young will eventually respond down the road here.
It becomes a game of odds.
My father flew only once, as he was a fireman in the navy at Hanscom afb after the end of ww2.
They were returing all airplanes from all airbases, where many planes were shot up, and many crashed trying to land at Hanscom.
But, he had an ulcer explode in his stomach, lost two thirds f his blood, and he was away.
He flew home to his doctor.

At some point, others will be let loose, defying the odds, only leaving some of us left in our current situation,until we get that medical answer.

 

[Uenth]

Went to the store at promptly 6 AM this morning. A great time to go shopping, seriously. Probably no more than 18 people were in the store (from the time I walked in till the time I walked out). The thing I like was I saw at least a dozen masks on other shoppers. Glad to see that folks are taking this seriously.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

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