Will there be Spring practice, Covid-19 vaccine

[Uenth]

Perhaps in GI that is true. But where I live in southwest Nebraska that isnt true at all. I hardly know anyone who HASNT been out to eat.

In GI I would say it is in the last 2-3 months that people have been starting to. As folks are getting vaccinated and our positive numbers are decreasing, restaurant indoor dining is picking up.

Just as a BTW for everyone, if you check CDC guidance -- even with being fully vaccinated, dining in a crowded restaurant is still not recommended.

Our Mom & Pop restaurant is balls to the walls on weekends but on our preferred day, they only have a handful of other diners so it should be pretty easy to continue to social distance. Guess I'll be told I'm in "sky is falling" mode again. :sighs: whatever.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

In GI I would say it is in the last 2-3 months that people have been starting to. As folks are getting vaccinated and our positive numbers are decreasing, restaurant indoor dining is picking up.

Just as a BTW for everyone, if you check CDC guidance -- even with being fully vaccinated, dining in a crowded restaurant is still not recommended.

Our Mom & Pop restaurant is balls to the walls on weekends but on our preferred day, they only have a handful of other diners so it should be pretty easy to continue to social distance. Guess I'll be told I'm in "sky is falling" mode again. :sighs: whatever.

You do you
Me? the CDC is lying with half truths.
I get what theyre trying to do, and its not healthy

 

[innmc]

 

[SUHnami]

alrighty then, I will. I know very few people who have been in a restaurant. Take away yes, but indoor seating now. Our C-19 rates have been much higher hear (3rd per capita in the USA for quite a while) so perhaps our circumstances are different. People are just now starting to head back to restaurants in any number. I drive by a lot of restaurants running errands and there are just not cars there. Those that have drive throughs have had good drive through traffic but their lobbies and in-door seating areas have been pretty much barren. I can only think of one restaurant in town that had much in the way of floor traffice since all restaurants reopened and we have always done take out from them. Too many tables in too small an area. I don't like being elbowed by the guy at the next table while I'm trying to eat.

Well my family and I have been to many restaurants in person. Never an issue of getting sick. We refused to live our lives in fear. Yes we have ordered take out or the drive-thru but have also eaten in many places since the pandemic.

 

[Uenth]

Well my family and I have been to many restaurants in person. Never an issue of getting sick. We refused to live our lives in fear. Yes we have ordered take out or the drive-thru but have also eaten in many places since the pandemic.

I don't consider it living in fear. Merely trying to follow CDC recommendations. We had multiple restaurants that closed for COVID-19 deep cleaning or because their workers had to isolate because of exposure.

It bears repeating that if you follow CDC guidance, restaurants unless they are small sized, are still not on the table.

If y'all want to call that living in fear, knock yourselves out. Since we pay these people money for their opinions, it is my opinion that we might at least try to follow their recommendations. Perhaps if the country had done that in March, we might not be having this conversation. One of those things we'll never know.

There is a huge difference between acknowledging the potential of COVID-19 and "living in fear". I've never hesitated to leave the house for essential and some non-essential purchases. Dining out in a restaurant, other than breakfast a couple of times a month, isn't high up on our priorities anyway so it just wasn't that big of a deal to stay home and order take away or delivery. Breakfast is best eaten where cooked so it will be nice to have that as an option again.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Nearly 6K fully vaccinated Americans got COVID-19 – out of 66M: CDC
Approximately 5,800 fully vaccinated Americans — out of 66 million who received the shots — still became infected with COVID-19, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data reported Thursday.

The infections, dubbed breakthrough cases — or positive test results that occur at least two weeks after a person gets their final coronavirus vaccine dose — represents about 0.008 percent of Americans who are fully vaccinated, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The federal agency found 29 percent of breakthrough infections were asymptomatic, while 7 percent led to hospitalization. So far, 74 people have died from breakthrough infections — but it’s not clear which vaccine they received, if the patients came from high-risk groups or if there were any other circumstances contributing to the deathS.

So, of 66 million, 74 have died, and who they were is still murky.
If I had to guess, its safer than driving a car

Those hospitalized is around 400 of that 66 million, everyone else, no symptoms to flu like symptoms, headaches etc

You chances of dying from the virus after fully vaxxed is .0000011, or one ten thousanth of 1 percent

 

[MadRat]

Most of the restaurants in Florida remained open for carryout the whole time. Lobbies were closed for maybe 45 days for most of them; tents went up everywhere for outdoor dining. But the sane governor also called for government sanity and created a way to head back to normalcy. So we never really stopped having an ability to eat out. I've yet to hear of any deaths where the person didn't have old age, obesity, or a compromised immune system.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Most of the restaurants in Florida remained open for carryout the whole time. Lobbies were closed for maybe 45 days for most of them; tents went up everywhere for outdoor dining. But the sane governor also called for government sanity and created a way to head back to normalcy. So we never really stopped having an ability to eat out. I've yet to hear of any deaths where the person didn't have old age, obesity, or a compromised immune system.

Its happened,and while mostly outliers,theres many that are simply unexplanable.
I think that gets to where we are all different, similar to say, two people go to the beach, one always is more sunburnt than another, along those lines, but it is rare, or fairly rare

 

[justino52]

In GI I would say it is in the last 2-3 months that people have been starting to. As folks are getting vaccinated and our positive numbers are decreasing, restaurant indoor dining is picking up.

Just as a BTW for everyone, if you check CDC guidance -- even with being fully vaccinated, dining in a crowded restaurant is still not recommended.

Our Mom & Pop restaurant is balls to the walls on weekends but on our preferred day, they only have a handful of other diners so it should be pretty easy to continue to social distance. Guess I'll be told I'm in "sky is falling" mode again. :sighs: whatever.

Sky is falling mode would be that you wear the recommended science based 2 masks per the CDC. But you choose to only wear one!!!!!! OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!

 

[innmc]

 

[Uenth]

Sky is falling mode would be that you wear the recommended science based 2 masks per the CDC. But you choose to only wear one!!!!!! OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!

Thanks for that! Yeah, one seems sufficient. Maybe if I went into a lot of places and saw bunches of people coughing and sneezing, I might rethink that. Plus in 2 weeks, I'm fully vaccinated which is a great level of protection, in my book. I'll still mask up in the store but we can be around my brother and his sister who have had both shots, going to a non crowded restaurant, etc.

Seriously, I think I know why they tell you to wear 2 masks. The paper disposable ones are pretty much one size and they don't fit all. So you wear a cloth one over that ill-fitting one. I was stunned when I was having all the mammograms and biopsy when the hospital told me that I couldn't wear my freshly laundered mask. Then they gave me a paper mask that I couldn't get a proper fit to my face. So if I had my cloth one over that one, I would have felt much better. LOL!

 

[SUHnami]

I don't consider it living in fear. Merely trying to follow CDC recommendations. We had multiple restaurants that closed for COVID-19 deep cleaning or because their workers had to isolate because of exposure.

It bears repeating that if you follow CDC guidance, restaurants unless they are small sized, are still not on the table.

If y'all want to call that living in fear, knock yourselves out. Since we pay these people money for their opinions, it is my opinion that we might at least try to follow their recommendations. Perhaps if the country had done that in March, we might not be having this conversation. One of those things we'll never know.

There is a huge difference between acknowledging the potential of COVID-19 and "living in fear". I've never hesitated to leave the house for essential and some non-essential purchases. Dining out in a restaurant, other than breakfast a couple of times a month, isn't high up on our priorities anyway so it just wasn't that big of a deal to stay home and order take away or delivery. Breakfast is best eaten where cooked so it will be nice to have that as an option again.

I wasn't meaning to sound so matter of fact. I just had a lack of words or phrashing. Many restaurants in Omaha closed for 30-45 days then started to re-open offering curb side service or drive through service. Then a month or so later they were allowed to re-open with restrictions. Now they have fewer restrictions, and wwe still go. Anyway we took a road trip to Biloxi, Ms and we visited many restaurants between here and there that were open for in-person dining from here to Biloxi. Some had restrictions, others didn't. Yet not one person that we know of or heard about contracted the virus via restaurants being open. Everyone has a choice of whether to wade out into this COVID filled world or not. My family needed to, not just for us but for our oldest who graduated nursing school from UNMC then later commissioned into the Air Force. We social distanced and had great hygiene and none of us came down with the virus at that time. It was safe travelling.

My point here is we may have more pandemics in our future. We have to decide as a society whether we should shut down like we did. I say no. It bank-rupted many millions and some even took their own lives. When gov't controls us we are beholden to their rules. We have the ability to push back. I'm of the mindset of do what you want to do within the law. Meaning if you don't feel safe going out that's fine, just don't opine (not aimed at you Uenth) about not being able to go out anywhere. If you are safe and abide by the CDC guidelines you'll probably be safe. Even if you don't you'll probably be safe. The CDC has changed their stance so many times during this pandemic and are still changing their minds that seriously are we still supposed to wear masks? I mean Fauci says to wear 2, then he says you don't. I've even seen him on live TV not wearing it properly and most folks don't. So what's the point of having a mask mandate that can't be enforced? A couple months ago he said and the CDC said it's safe for kids to go back to school. Heck Elkhorn has been back to school since the beginning of the school year in-person and remote while having extra-curricular activities with restrictions but they didn't panic and all was/is done safely. What's the point of that last sentence? The gov't and other liberal states have said it's not safe to go back to in person classes, yet many school districts are with a few notable exceptions and have had low virus contraction and exposure. The larger point here is this whole pandemic is POLITICAL and always has been. A test for the Feds to see how well we sheep obey. Most have which is what the gov't wanted. It's a conrol/power issue. And if we keep obeying we will cease to be a free nation.

Anyway it looks like the pandemic should be winding down. We should all be able to go out maskless if we want. I'll be ecstatic for the upcoming football season and plan on attending all the games this fall. GBR!

 

[Cigarman]

Yesterday I was on a zoom meeting with a Biotech VP from one of the COVID manufacturing firms. The purpose of the meeting was not COVID related but he was asked about the Biden statement saying that booster shots will be necessary. He said there is absolutely zero evidence to support that. He said there is no evidence that the effects of the vaccination wear off. In fact, initial studies show the effects should last for years. The said that the mRNA vaccines lead to very high antibody levels. He also said COVID is not like the flu in that it mutates easily which might necessitate the need for a booster. This guy is at the center of this vaccine testing and probably as knowledgeable as anyone in the world. He said this misinformation from Biden is not helpful.

After listening to this, I can only think this information our government is pushing is nothing but a scare tactic. They are playing on people's fears to increase their reliance on big government and to keep emergency conditions in effect that give them more control.

 

[innmc]

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Yesterday I was on a zoom meeting with a Biotech VP from one of the COVID manufacturing firms. The purpose of the meeting was not COVID related but he was asked about the Biden statement saying that booster shots will be necessary. He said there is absolutely zero evidence to support that. He said there is no evidence that the effects of the vaccination wear off. In fact, initial studies show the effects should last for years. The said that the mRNA vaccines lead to very high antibody levels. He also said COVID is not like the flu in that it mutates easily which might necessitate the need for a booster. This guy is at the center of this vaccine testing and probably as knowledgeable as anyone in the world. He said this misinformation from Biden is not helpful.

After listening to this, I can only think this information our government is pushing is nothing but a scare tactic. They are playing on people's fears to increase their reliance on big government and to keep emergency conditions in effect that give them more control.

Think of things this way.
The blood clotting issue hasnt been an issue with moderna and Pfizer, but has been with astrozeneca.
We, the CDC and FDA want to know whats going on there.
Ip pops J&J with the same problem, they shut J^J down,now, the numbers dont show it needs be shut, but allowing studies AND keeping shots flowing is a bridge too far.
Now,move to the boosters.
Just like operation warp speed, they are getting ahead of this,wise move just as operation warrp speed was, we didnt know if the vaxxes would work, but shoot for 3 or four, one likely would,and oud be getting a huge jump on things.
However, the messaging of both is part media and part governmental omissions of clarity for what youre saying, better safe than sorry approach, which the medical 'leaders' have embraced, plays well for the media,and always is good when a government has more controls over its citizenship.

Much of this stinks, is mostly non acceptable, and there should be no total forgiveness here, as many know better, but have other motives, or simply place their motives higher in saving people than losing people through no availability for needed health reasons outside of covid and or, business and livelihood disastors way too bountiful to ignore.

I wont argue this, as I see it as true, nor will I condemn those who believe otherwise

 

[MadRat]

I love the 'South African' myth of a deadlier variant.

South Africa has a low death rate. All of Africa has a low death rate,

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

I love the 'South African' myth of a deadlier variant.

South Africa has a low death rate. All of Africa has a low death rate,

Unfortunately, this may change,as covid has proven to be seasonal.

 

[Crazyhole]

I love the 'South African' myth of a deadlier variant.

South Africa has a low death rate. All of Africa has a low death rate,

Every time a person becomes infected, what they spread is technically a "variant".

 

[Hunchback Johnny]

At the behest of my doctor I went and got some kind of shot today. He mentioned one of the side effects may be total memory loss. Can someone please enlighten me... what the heck are these 68 pages about? I'm new to this channel.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

At the behest of my doctor I went and got some kind of shot today. He mentioned one of the side effects may be total memory loss. Can someone please enlighten me... what the heck are these 68 pages about? I'm new to this channel.

Its about how new mexico has the worst home grown chiles on the planet