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If I could hit the like button 1000 times I would! Probably need to stick to football topics instead of this topic. I can see it going sideways in a hurry!
MRJFB said:
Ok, getting out my soap box and anti-rotten tomato shield.
I want to say something about 90 percent of the discussions on marijuana use and I'll sum it up this way: Bull$#!+.
There are a plethora of 'medical reports' that downplay or make unsubstantiated claims as to its harmlessness and even advantages. Very little to any of it proven.
Thats the first bs. You'll stumble upon a multitude of nonsense 'medical studies' telling people exactly what they want to hear. Stick to the CDC or unbiased sources, not agenda driven feel good studies.
First off, thanks all for acting all ambivalent about it
It really has a nice effect on our children. Comparing it to alcohol and downplaying the inebriation sends a fantastic message. Alcohol ruins a multitude of lives and kills many people. Breaks up families, I could go on. So saying it's not as bad isn't all that comforting.
Teens are especially susceptible to damaging their brain using mj as it inhibits the final development stages of growth.
Here are my case studies:
As a teen nearly all my friends smoked, some more than others. The others grew the hell up and became men who supported their families. They put away the foolishness of their youth.
The 'more' category I tended to lose touch with. About 15 years after this time period I ran into a friend of mine who told me these guys were still smoking pot (which took me by surprise). They had families but instead if hiding it from their parents were hiding it from their wives.
I thought that was pretty infantile. A good 30 years after the youth period I got an invite to a b-day party. I hadn't seen these guys in a long, long time. I'll tell you this group was struggling.
They were living on the bottom parts of the income scale and most had either never married or had gotten divorced. During the middle of what I thought was an adult party most of then disappeared. They had snuck into a back bedroom to get high. Circa early 80's was alive and strong.
A few years later than that I was at a funeral and this crowd came. What a fn mess of bad health. One had a stroke, one had died of a heart attack, and as a group looked pretty haggard. The one with the stroke died a couple years later.
Now these were guys in their 50's.
Another thing in my life is Ive worked with children who've been neglected.
When we get reports on their background here are the top three parental issues.
1. Drug use.
2.Drug use.
3. Drug use.
Now I am not pointing out specifics but making the point that drug use is a mentality. Reality has too much discomfort so they turn to inebriation.
BTW, rarely is the problem alcohol as the major contributor. Not that it doesn't have a play here.
I could go on but you get my picture. Our opinions are formed more by life experiences than what is reported from afar.
As we try to teach our children how to navigate an alcohol soaked society and hope it's handled well we now add another layer of issues flippantly saying it's not as bad. Well it sure as heck doesn't help
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I guess I see things differently. I don't buy this alcohol is the cause, weed is the cause, guns are the cause, etc. tripe. I lay it on the individual. If you cannot handle it, leave it alone. I know hundreds of people who drink responsibly and are productive citizens. I don't know about the medical use of weed but I do know it got a lot of us through Nam. The same with guns. Guns don't kill. People kill with guns. The same as they do with cars, knives, hammers and lots of other items.

Every time I hear weed ruined his life or alcohol ruined his life, I think BS. Some people are just too weak to control their actions. They are always looking for a crutch. In my mind, people who blame the crutch are enablers. They excuse this destructive behavior and blame it on a substance. It has little to do with the substance, it is the individual who is flawed.
 
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Sgt Red said:
If I could hit the like button 1000 times I would! Probably need to stick to football topics instead of this topic. I can see it going sideways in a hurry!
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Certainly railed off on a fine rant. Thanks for the gentle reminder. I'll keep on task. Ranting wildly about football.
 
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Sgt Red said:
If I could hit the like button 1000 times I would! Probably need to stick to football topics instead of this topic. I can see it going sideways in a hurry!
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MRJFB said:
Certainly railed off on a fine rant. Thanks for the gentle reminder. I'll keep on task. Ranting wildly about football.
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Trust me, folks, Mrjfb's football rants are bad enough.

Whatever you do, please don't get him started on any off-topic stuff. :) ;)
 
MRJFB said:
Ok, getting out my soap box and anti-rotten tomato shield.
I want to say something about 90 percent of the discussions on marijuana use and I'll sum it up this way: Bull$#!+.
There are a plethora of 'medical reports' that downplay or make unsubstantiated claims as to its harmlessness and even advantages. Very little to any of it proven.
Thats the first bs. You'll stumble upon a multitude of nonsense 'medical studies' telling people exactly what they want to hear. Stick to the CDC or unbiased sources, not agenda driven feel good studies.
First off, thanks all for acting all ambivalent about it
It really has a nice effect on our children. Comparing it to alcohol and downplaying the inebriation sends a fantastic message. Alcohol ruins a multitude of lives and kills many people. Breaks up families, I could go on. So saying it's not as bad isn't all that comforting.
Teens are especially susceptible to damaging their brain using mj as it inhibits the final development stages of growth.
Here are my case studies:
As a teen nearly all my friends smoked, some more than others. The others grew the hell up and became men who supported their families. They put away the foolishness of their youth.
The 'more' category I tended to lose touch with. About 15 years after this time period I ran into a friend of mine who told me these guys were still smoking pot (which took me by surprise). They had families but instead if hiding it from their parents were hiding it from their wives.
I thought that was pretty infantile. A good 30 years after the youth period I got an invite to a b-day party. I hadn't seen these guys in a long, long time. I'll tell you this group was struggling.
They were living on the bottom parts of the income scale and most had either never married or had gotten divorced. During the middle of what I thought was an adult party most of then disappeared. They had snuck into a back bedroom to get high. Circa early 80's was alive and strong.
A few years later than that I was at a funeral and this crowd came. What a fn mess of bad health. One had a stroke, one had died of a heart attack, and as a group looked pretty haggard. The one with the stroke died a couple years later.
Now these were guys in their 50's.
Another thing in my life is Ive worked with children who've been neglected.
When we get reports on their background here are the top three parental issues.
1. Drug use.
2.Drug use.
3. Drug use.
Now I am not pointing out specifics but making the point that drug use is a mentality. Reality has too much discomfort so they turn to inebriation.
BTW, rarely is the problem alcohol as the major contributor. Not that it doesn't have a play here.
I could go on but you get my picture. Our opinions are formed more by life experiences than what is reported from afar.
As we try to teach our children how to navigate an alcohol soaked society and hope it's handled well we now add another layer of issues flippantly saying it's not as bad. Well it sure as heck doesn't help
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Just to make you aware the U.S. government has to approve of any study done on cannabis when that paper work is submitted it must state what outcome the test is trying to show the us government has never approved a test to show any benefit of cannabis as far as your buddies it’s on them if they are trying to be 50 year old bill and teds no one else
 
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I'm fine with CBD use. Marry Jane is not okay.

Christmas season appears to have been MJ season at the malls. Could hardly go through crowds of young men that were a bit rough on the edges without smelling it. Didn't see any carrying shopping bags. We've seem it permeate young folks, true, but mostly the younger generation that is struggling.
 
Cigarman said:
I guess I see things differently. I don't buy this alcohol is the cause, weed is the cause, guns are the cause, etc. tripe. I lay it on the individual. If you cannot handle it, leave it alone. I know hundreds of people who drink responsibly and are productive citizens. I don't know about the medical use of weed but I do know it got a lot of us through Nam. The same with guns. Guns don't kill. People kill with guns. The same as they do with cars, knives, hammers and lots of other items.

Every time I hear weed ruined his life or alcohol ruined his life, I think BS. Some people are just too weak to control their actions. They are always looking for a crutch. In my mind, people who blame the crutch are enablers. They excuse this destructive behavior and blame it on a substance. It has little to do with the substance, it is the individual who is flawed.
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I mostly agree with you. I do however recognize that some people just have, or are more prone to, addictive substances. Largely though it does take some will power to not let your demons, which can encompass pretty much anything detrimental to your health, control you. As Hozier sang, "Never tame your demons, but always keep 'em on a leash."
 
Husker99 said:
I mostly agree with you. I do however recognize that some people just have, or are more prone to, addictive substances. Largely though it does take some will power to not let your demons, which can encompass pretty much anything detrimental to your health, control you. As Hozier sang, "Never tame your demons, but always keep 'em on a leash."
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Some substances are highly addictive, things like heroin and meth. Even with these substances there is still a choice to use or not. If the induvial is stupid enough to get started, he or she will probably get addicted. However, most substances like weed and alcohol are not highly addictive. Most people can use them and not become dependent on them.

I worked as a door man in a singles bar when I was working on my MBA. Most people came in had a few drinks and socialized. However, some people drank themselves into oblivion every night. Many of these people had trouble holding jobs or establishing relationships because they lacked self-control. It wasn't the substance that caused this. They were drinking the same things as everyone else. If it was the substance, everyone would be like them. It was the induvial.
 
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MadRat said:
I'm fine with CBD use. Marry Jane is not okay.

Christmas season appears to have been MJ season at the malls. Could hardly go through crowds of young men that were a bit rough on the edges without smelling it. Didn't see any carrying shopping bags. We've seem it permeate young folks, true, but mostly the younger generation that is struggling.
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I'm fine with pot being illegal but then alcohol needs to be axed as well. Both alter minds and behaviors but one is legal and the other isn't and I agree with Cigarman's comments above.
 
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smallz243 said:
Betts is taking part of team activities and appears to be officially back! Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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So I hear. It will be interesting to follow indeed. I hope he has his head on right. The leash needs to be short. The potential is definitely there.
 
Maybe a little structure is what he needs. If immaturity is an issue, I would think the way Ruhle does things vs the previous regime will make a difference.
BTW, BIG upgrade over Decoldest IMHO.
 
I hope he isn’t counting against the 85. He needs to earn the schollie back.
 
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