TheEvilBeak;74737 said:
Got to be honest, I'm not that enamored with that aspect of the play book
Tommy's injury?
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Got to be honest, I'm not that enamored with that aspect of the play book
valiantsailor;74818 said:
Just like T-Mart, same mistakes as the freshman year. You nailed it Val!
QUESTION
If TA does NOT play, what kind of game does Langsdork call? If I recall correctly, this is his first experience actually calls plays and coming up with a game plan. So does he start out conservative and run and run and run the ball no matter what because he doesn't trust TA's backups? Or, does he maintain his status quo, have 2 unsuccessful running attempts and go totally pass happy?
It could totally make or break the season. Oh wait, it's already broken. Never mind.
If TA does NOT play, what kind of game does Langsdork call? If I recall correctly, this is his first experience actually calls plays and coming up with a game plan. So does he start out conservative and run and run and run the ball no matter what because he doesn't trust TA's backups? Or, does he maintain his status quo, have 2 unsuccessful running attempts and go totally pass happy?
It could totally make or break the season. Oh wait, it's already broken. Never mind.
Why do Tommy fanatics ignore his current 4-8 record at QB in the last 12 starts. He didnt get it done. His personal, ill-timed mistakes have cost us most of those games. Not the OC. Not the defense. His mistakes. He even screwed up his team in the Spring.
And valiant, 10 yard range for Darlington. Dont be a moron.
And valiant, 10 yard range for Darlington. Dont be a moron.
I'm not into the passive running game too much. When once we had our first and second team Qb go down we leaned on the running game. I don't see langsberry leaning much on this running game as it now exists. Remember the Terminator vs K-State.
Now if it is Fife just maybe he gets comfortable by halftime and produces. He can't be too much worse in the short game and screen game than now exists with Tommy. I just don't know if Flounder has it in him to use a semblance of a running game without throwing all over the place.
I'm thinking he'll have Armstrong play even on one leg. Half the starters are already hobbling and what is one more. Besides Back Foot Tommy may not be able to jump off that back leg. Which wheel is bothering him anyway?
Now if it is Fife just maybe he gets comfortable by halftime and produces. He can't be too much worse in the short game and screen game than now exists with Tommy. I just don't know if Flounder has it in him to use a semblance of a running game without throwing all over the place.
I'm thinking he'll have Armstrong play even on one leg. Half the starters are already hobbling and what is one more. Besides Back Foot Tommy may not be able to jump off that back leg. Which wheel is bothering him anyway?
MadRat;74830 said:
That was GatorHusker who made the 10 yard reference in re: Darlington.
And what you said was pretty much what I was getting at. At this point, what does benching Tommy hurt? It ain't like going with a different QB will tank the season...that ship has already sailed.
MadRat;74830 said:
Not sure what you mean? Moron? What the *****? OK your talking about Gators post not mine try to keep up
Even if they bring in another QB, this passive run game isn't slowing down the pass rush. Tommy's best trait was doing a Houdini. Even if they play Back-leg Tommy he'll be slowed somewhat I'll imagine. I hate to keep saying run the ball, but...., run the damn ball and help out your quarterback Langsduffer.
And saying the OC and his play calling didn't contribute is amusing. Flounder is the master of pounding pegs with a sledgehammer. And as for Tommy fanatics.... I haven't seen too many of them around these parts. LOL
And saying the OC and his play calling didn't contribute is amusing. Flounder is the master of pounding pegs with a sledgehammer. And as for Tommy fanatics.... I haven't seen too many of them around these parts. LOL
Husker94;74809 said:
we don't know a lot of things about which players might be better than other players.
I've got a good guess as to who might know, though... the coaches?
as for not having anything to lose, I disagree. this team still has a shot to make a bowl game, and the rest of the season is more experience for them in this offense. I'm ok with them subbing in some younger guys at a few positions to see what they can do and get them some valuable game reps for next season, such as Ozigbo/Stevenson at RB, Foster and Farmer on the OL, maybe Knevel on the OL as well, Stoltenberg on the DL, Ferguson at LB, Williams at S, and I'm ok with giving a few game snaps to a backup QB (preferably Bush if they think that he has the highest ceiling) but wholesale changes such as benching the 3 year starting QB is just saying theyre giving up on the season.
I'm comparing TA to Lord because Lord got blasted by fans for his sometimes poor play when it was obvious he was the best we had at the time due to poor recruiting and he was surrounded by a subpar OL and RB, iirc.
and yes I was exaggerating about the 10 yard limit for Darlington but I think anyone who has seen him throw can agree his arm strength leaves a lot to be desired. he might be better at the screen pass than TA (all of the backup QBs probably are) but that lack of arm strength would probably limit the field quite a bit and cause more problems in both the running and passing games.
Three bad plays by TA cost three games? Give me a break. There were more plays throughout those games that also contributed to the losses. How about that pass defense? Maybe if the defense could have made a few stops TA wouldn't be getting blamed. If your talking about the Miami game, there would not have been OT without TA. Made a bad throw in OT, but just think if the defense could have made just a couple stops in the first quarter.
There are more issues on offense than just TA. Play calling is just one. How about the lack of blocking by the line? Dropped passes? TA is a competitor and a leader. Something that seems to be lacking as a whole on the team.
There are more issues on offense than just TA. Play calling is just one. How about the lack of blocking by the line? Dropped passes? TA is a competitor and a leader. Something that seems to be lacking as a whole on the team.
Yesterday while talking to a dude at work is when it really hit home just how terrible Nebraska's QB play has been for the last 7 years. TMart for 4 years! Tommy going on 3! That's 7 freaking seasons of atrocious QB play.
Right now Nebraska has exactly one QB who received other FBS offers to play college QB. And that is the guy who is one hit away from veggie status. Our first, second, and third string QBs couldn't pull down a QB offer from any other FBS school. Let that sink in.
Right now Nebraska has exactly one QB who received other FBS offers to play college QB. And that is the guy who is one hit away from veggie status. Our first, second, and third string QBs couldn't pull down a QB offer from any other FBS school. Let that sink in.
whoppee .... The Tiddy bowl with maybe a losing record. That's not too much to loose in my humble opinion. I'd rather season some players for the future than going to some third rate bowl against a second tier team that could embarrass us. We still have several tough games ahead of us. Winning out looks to be a tough chore. Don't get me wrong. I love if we did, but we couldn't beat Illinois.
Korn;74850 said:
And judging by the way Purdue played Michigan State...that game is a 50/50 toss up. The rest of our games are (I am sorry to say) almost all certainly going to be losses. That doesn't mean I won't be watching and cheering the Huskers on though.
Big Papi;74846 said:
No one is saying there arent some other issues. But if you throw a pick in OT, its hard to dive for cover. If you throw a pick 6 in qtr 4 and lose by 2, well duh? If you get the plays mixed up at a critical time? Well? Thats three right there. If you wanna go further just give me a whistle, I'll come running and give you more.
valiantsailor;74858 said:
The pick 6 did not happen in the 4th quarter. I guess according to you, the last place pass defense giving up record number of passing yards had nothing to do with losing. Didn't you say before defense wins championships? The line not blocking had no affect either. Maybe if Turner continued his route he would have caught a TD and we win. So many factors went into those losses, not just TA.
Look, TA has had some WTF moments but to put three loses squarely on TA is BS. If I want to whistle it sure wouldn't be at you
Big Papi;74863 said:
it always comes down to a play or two or a mistake, The mistake he made in the Illinois game was on a scale of the epic play by Bill Buckner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18caPNisP2U
or the pick by New England in this years Superbowl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4d4u6iHPMY
valiantsailor;74782 said:
It sounds like it would be very effective. Surprised more coaches havent thought of this and tried it already.
Husker94;74809 said:
They get their chance in practice. Just because we dont see them on the field in a game doesnt mean they arent getting a chance. Its called practice. If you cant get it done there you most likely arent going to get it done during the game. Bush looked absolutely lost in the spring game so I would really doubt he would do much during the game. Fyfe had his scholly taken away for a reason. Darlington? Well he did look good in the spring game but he must not be showing much in practice since Fyfe has overtaken him on the depth chart.
