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Husker94

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So I've taken a lot of flack from posters because of comments I've made regarding Nebraska's play following the drubbings from Oregon, Wisconsin, and Ohio State.

The most recent by posters is mentioning how they played against Purdue. Yeah, they didn't quit, good for them. But where was this heart, pride, not quitting against the three teams who have blown us out? Where was this heart, fire, pride during those games?

I can handle Nebraska losing. If we play teams like Ohio State extremely tough, it goes down to the wire, and we play hard all game, and are in the game until the end...I can handle that.

But, when I see poor play, players taking snaps off, lazy technique, and half-speed effort, as this team is wont to do, then those are issues which need to be addressed.

The most difficult part is that there are clearly players who DO care, who DO play hard: JD Spielman, Stanley Morgan, Mick Stoltenberg, the Davis twins, etc. But the guys who play hard, their effort is negated by others who really don't care.

Calling me a bad fan, insulting me, and/or saying I'm using hyperbole, when literally everything I say is 100% true and easily visible with your own eyes, is disingenuous and possibly something else (I won't say that word because it could be construed as being "political").

Some Nebraska fans here need to stop candy-coating their assessment of this team. Nebraska is playing 1,000,000,000,000 times below their talent level (there's your hyperbole) and no amount chiding, insulting, or calling me "bad fan" is going to change that fact.

I will say this: If Nebraska wins out, then Mike Riley should be given one more year. But Nebraska going forward has got to start playing well, especially with Penn State and Iowa upcoming. We have got to get more physical, especially along the offensive front. 40 yards rushing against Purdue with a 1.5 average per attempt.

Nebraska is a terrible, non-physical, soft, finesse team whose players either quit or don't show up against the "big boys" on the schedule. That is the truth. That is reality. You may not like it, but address your comments to Mike Riley and this staff, because if the team was playing well, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Now...fire away.
 
Fan forums thrive on two things. Competing for championships and underachieving teams not living up to expectations. The latter has this board rockin' these days! From a soft as a charmin marshmellow coach to players that don't give a sh!+ about nuthin. Good fan-Bad fan.....candy coated assessments...RB's that don't run with authority....I love it!

Did somebody say Arby's?
 
The most difficult part is that there are clearly players who DO care, who DO play hard: JD Spielman, Stanley Morgan, Mick Stoltenberg, the Davis twins, etc. But the guys who play hard, their effort is negated by others who really don't care.

Name the players who don't care and then tell us how you know.

Name the players who are taking plays off.

Name all the posters who have called you a "bad fan."

Name the posters who are calling you names or making personal attacks.
 
Husker21stb;n155406 said:
Name the players who don't care and then tell us how you know. David Knevel, Gerald Foster (watch Foster's press conference on youtube after the Wisconsin loss.)

Name the players who are taking plays off. Half the time the OL, Lamar Jackson.

Name all the posters who have called you a "bad fan." tfree32

Name the posters who are calling you names or making personal attacks. you, HuskerVotary, SalinaHusker, tfree32, justino52

Answers in red. Every answer I gave here is easily discoverable and in the form of posts right here on BHF.

And how do I know? Because I watch the games, I know good football when I see it, I know when technique is lazy, and I know half-speed effort when I see it.
 
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Husker94;n155411 said:
Answers in red. Every answer I gave here is easily discoverable and in the form of posts right here on BHF.

And how do I know? Because I watch the games, I know good football when I see it, I know when technique is lazy, and I know half-speed effort when I see it.

Jen, I don't remember intentionally making a personal attack at you. In fact, I try very hard not to make ad hominem attacks, because I consider it not only poor form, but lazy.
 
Hunchback Johnny;n155413 said:
There is no reason Nebraska shouldn't have a bruising running game.
WE HAVE THE MEATS

Your ad blitz worked. I’m having Arby’s for dinner tonight.
 
ramelm;n155421 said:
Your ad blitz worked. I’m having Arby’s for dinner tonight.

What's not to like? Slices of heaven I say.

Try this

Blind fold a vegan and feed them a roast beef sando from Arby's but tell them Its a kale sandy with a sprinkling of special ingredients.
They love it!
 
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Husker94;n155411 said:
Answers in red. Every answer I gave here is easily discoverable and in the form of posts right here on BHF.

And how do I know? Because I watch the games, I know good football when I see it, I know when technique is lazy, and I know half-speed effort when I see it.

I took Foster's press conference differently than you did. You heard, "I don't want to be Wisconsin" and took it as they don't want to be successful and don't care about winning or being physical. If I remember correctly, feel free to tell me if I am not remembering your take on it correctly.

I heard him say that and took it as I believe in what we are
doing here and believe we can win with our style.
 
But these dogs in scarlet and cream still have some bite. Some fire. I saw it in the eyes of that recruiting assistant.

I also heard it in the voice of Riley as he entered the locker room and addressed his team after NU improved to 4-4 overall and 3-2 in the Big Ten.

"How about those Huskers!?" he exclaimed.

And you heard not only fire in his voice, but also utter joy. Even if you think he's the wrong guy to lead the program, at least a part of you had to feel good for him on this crisp night. This season has become largely about Riley. He's the focus. He's under fire. And he handles it with a remarkable amount of class and grace. That's something to appreciate as well.
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Hunchback Johnny;n155423 said:
What's not to like? Slices of heaven I say.

Try this

Blind fold a vegan and feed them a roast beef sando from Arby's but tell them Its a kale sandy with a sprinkling of special ingredients.
They love it!

I keep seeing commercials, two French dip and Swiss for $6. I could eat that every day and die a bloated glob of Arbys delight.
 
Fire away? I’ll fire away...
#1 - Holy Crap - this board is like groundhog day just switch out the head coach people want fired...

#2 - Husker94 - Seriously...did you just create a thread with multiple paragraphs whining about being picked on because you choose to say certain things that open you up for criticism?...How old are you?
 
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I’m fine with pointing out that certain players or the team as a whole aren’t playing well. Similarly, it’s fine to point out that certain coaches or the staff as a whole isn’t getting the job done. But calling them “cowards” is far more personal and attacks their character. I don’t think that’s at all appropriate. I also don’t see the evidence to support it. On the contrary, I see a team that’s playing hard despite not playing or being coached particularly well.

And I think it’s kind of silly to attack the characters of a bunch of college kids and then to start a whole thread to complain that you’re being criticized for it. Try on some big girl pants.
 
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tfree32;n155472 said:
I’m fine with pointing out that certain players or the team as a whole aren’t playing well. Similarly, it’s fine to point out that certain coaches or the staff as a whole isn’t getting the job done. But calling them “cowards” is far more personal and attacks their character. I don’t think that’s at all appropriate. I also don’t see the evidence to support it. On the contrary, I see a team that’s playing hard despite not playing or being coached particularly well.

And I think it’s kind of silly to attack the characters of a bunch of college kids and then to start a whole thread to complain that you’re being criticized for it. Try on some big girl pants.

I agree with you tfree. It never ceases to amaze me the things people will say from the safety of their keyboard, (safely tucked away in their mother's basement, I imagine)--knowing they would never say anything close to that if they were face-to-face with the people you are talking about--that type of post is the very definition of cowardly.

GBR

BTW tfree --nice to see you back on the board
 
Red Storm Rising;n155481 said:
I agree with you tfree. It never ceases to amaze me the things people will say from the safety of their keyboard, (safely tucked away in their mother's basement, I imagine)--knowing they would never say anything close to that if they were face-to-face with the people you are talking about--that type of post is the very definition of cowardly.

GBR

BTW tfree --nice to see you back on the board

My personal rule, if I won't say it person to person, I won't type it either. I had an experience with someone who wrote a blog about me and my family. Yet, would run out the back door of a local business when I would walk in the front. Typical keyboard warrior.
 
We would all do well to take a deep breath. It's getting a little cray cray up in here. Pass the mozzarella sticks and curly fries.