Season to start around Thanksgiving???

Oh yeah we're not winning anything now as long as Warren is in charge, which hopefully isn't much longer. We will continue to get the hardest schedule they can give us after putting up this fight. And I don't care as long as we're playing football when football is supposed to be played. Ok that's probably not true, I'll still get mad when we lose! ;)
 
Although the details are cloudy - I do think there is some actual progress on plans to play this Fall - just a question of if enough B1G schools go along with plans (and I do think it is quite possible some will sit out even with a vote to play).

I find the other rumors a bit far fetched (tOSU independent in 2021, Nebraska back to the Big 12) - BUT I do think both schools knew there were some problems in the B1G conference office - but they probably WAY underestimated how badly a few schools want to teach the "football schools" a lesson. Leading the charge is of course Michigan - who I think is supposed to be a football school - but it sure smells like a big FU to tOSU. Fortunately I think the money guys at Michigan realize continuing down that path kills Big 10 football for the foreseeable future (recruiting, revenue, you name it) - and they are trying stave that off as best they can.
 
FWIW, Latest rumor on bucknuts ohio St site is 8 games starting Oct 17. One bye, championship game dec 19. Supposedly from some Ohio State parents.
 
The only reason the season has not started in the B1G is the dingbats in charge of Michigan. If MU and MSU were open to a new season start, we would be playing football in early October
 
Maybe tOSU and Nebraska vacating the B1G actually holds some water - this is complete BS.
 
People were pissed about the decision. Acting like the poor communication played a role is disingenuous at best.

Disagree. It doesnt sound like they gave the schools much reason not to play either. Many are questioning why they arent playing and what the decision was based on.
If the B1G had gave a good reason why they chose to cancel the fall season, and then the University had said, yes this is good information and a good reason to cancel, we cant ensure the kids safety, most fans would have understood and been in agreement. Lack of communication was a key here.
 
If the B1G had gave a good reason why they chose to cancel the fall season, and then the University had said, yes this is good information and a good reason to cancel, we cant ensure the kids safety, most fans would have understood and been in agreement. Lack of communication was a key here.
Emotional situations are rarely made significantly better with solid communication. Has anyone on this board just nodded their head and accepted when their spouse broke the news that they were leaving? Even with a great pitch, that’s a tough pill to swallow.

Pretty much every reason I’ve heard from people angry about the decision boils down to “I’m gonna be sads if there’s no football”. That’s 100% emotion, leaving no room for logic.
 
Disagree. It doesnt sound like they gave the schools much reason not to play either. Many are questioning why they arent playing and what the decision was based on.
Last I checked, we're in the midst of a deadly worldwide pandemic for which there is currently no vaccine for. What more of a reason do you need?

If professionals want to risk their lives to earn a living under less-than-ideal safety conditions, I guess if it's good enough for the meat-packers, it's good enough for pro athletes too.

But college kids? Personally, I think it's asinine for colleges and universities across the country to hold 'in-person' classes. These schools open their doors and then we hear all kinds of stories about huge off-campus parties without masks. Of course, the same school administrators who welcomed them -- and their parents' money -- to campus with open arms suddenly get all sanctimonious and say they'll suspend these kids. Really? What did you expect them to do for crying out loud??!? And then what? They send them back home? Yeah, THAT's a brilliant idea!

Listen, I'm as pissed as anybody that we're not playing. But I get annoyed with the Powers-that-Be who are pushing forward for the big bucks and telling us -- with a straight face -- that they're "in it for the students." Yeeeeeah, riiiiiiiiiiight.
 
Last I checked, we're in the midst of a deadly worldwide pandemic for which there is currently no vaccine for. What more of a reason do you need?

If professionals want to risk their lives to earn a living under less-than-ideal safety conditions, I guess if it's good enough for the meat-packers, it's good enough for pro athletes too.

But college kids? Personally, I think it's asinine for colleges and universities across the country to hold 'in-person' classes. These schools open their doors and then we hear all kinds of stories about huge off-campus parties without masks. Of course, the same school administrators who welcomed them -- and their parents' money -- to campus with open arms suddenly get all sanctimonious and say they'll suspend these kids. Really? What did you expect them to do for crying out loud??!? And then what? They send them back home? Yeah, THAT's a brilliant idea!

Listen, I'm as pissed as anybody that we're not playing. But I get annoyed with the Powers-that-Be who are pushing forward for the big bucks and telling us -- with a straight face -- that they're "in it for the students." Yeeeeeah, riiiiiiiiiiight.
I think you make a valid point about how letting them on campus is fine, but sports somehow are not. Maybe going back to school is fine AND playing is fine, and that's what I think they should do. Life can't be put on hold forever, so cant we mitigate risks as much as possible and try to move forward? IMO, Colleges should make a risk assessment based on the risk to the students, instead of basing all restrictions on the ones most vulnerable. It seems to me that this is what the SEC, Big12, ACC, etc did. It sure isn't deadly to the students, that much is clear, and that is based on data. It isn't even causing serious illness in the student body, based on hospitalization data. Maybe the players, parents, coaches, & ADs, wanted the BIG10 to try their damnedest to play, and only cancel if it was the only alternative. I mean, they aren't completely careless idiots like you are portraying. What happened to looking at the hospitalization rates to assess how "deadly" this pandemic is? I won't go any further than this, because anything deeper belongs in the Covid-19 thread....
 
Last I checked, we're in the midst of a deadly worldwide pandemic for which there is currently no vaccine for. What more of a reason do you need?

If professionals want to risk their lives to earn a living under less-than-ideal safety conditions, I guess if it's good enough for the meat-packers, it's good enough for pro athletes too.

But college kids? Personally, I think it's asinine for colleges and universities across the country to hold 'in-person' classes. These schools open their doors and then we hear all kinds of stories about huge off-campus parties without masks. Of course, the same school administrators who welcomed them -- and their parents' money -- to campus with open arms suddenly get all sanctimonious and say they'll suspend these kids. Really? What did you expect them to do for crying out loud??!? And then what? They send them back home? Yeah, THAT's a brilliant idea!

Listen, I'm as pissed as anybody that we're not playing. But I get annoyed with the Powers-that-Be who are pushing forward for the big bucks and telling us -- with a straight face -- that they're "in it for the students." Yeeeeeah, riiiiiiiiiiight.
Describe to me a safer place for student athletes to be than in the care of the athletic department where they receive all the testing, obey all the protocols and have all the motivation to stay out of situations where they could put themselves at risk of contracting the virus.

And, to think that students in general, being young people, will not still socialize and gather in groups while taking online classes is completely unrealistic.
 
Emotional situations are rarely made significantly better with solid communication. Has anyone on this board just nodded their head and accepted when their spouse broke the news that they were leaving? Even with a great pitch, that’s a tough pill to swallow.
Yeah, his communication sucked and he couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it so I was pretty devistated. Even if he hadn't been a low-life, scum-sucking, lying SOB I still would have been wounded to the core because for whatever dumbass reason, I LUVED him.

Thank Gawd I had much better taste the second time around.
 
Describe to me a safer place for student athletes to be than in the care of the athletic department where they receive all the testing, obey all the protocols and have all the motivation to stay out of situations where they could put themselves at risk of contracting the virus.

And, to think that students in general, being young people, will not still socialize and gather in groups while taking online classes is completely unrealistic.
The last thing I want to do is to argue covid-19 with my board buddies. I just found myself overreacting to the comment about the B1G not giving a good reason for not playing.

My previous take was primarily about the bald-faced hypocrisy of University leaders across the country. Yes, young people are going to socialize. But to encourage them to come to campus (at a hefty price tag, natch) when they know damn good and well what's going to happen -- and then become all sanctimonious when it does -- smacks me as the height of hypocrisy. (And guess what? Those suspended students caught -- gasp! PARTYING!!! -- don't get their money back. See how this works?)

I would agree that student-athletes at bigtime schools are probably among the safest group on any college campus. Thank goodness I'm not a Okie State, Iowa State, or Tarheel fan because I would feel more than a little guilty to be cheering my team on the football field while major outbreaks of Covid-19 were going on at my school. Is it me or isn't there something wrong about that picture?
 
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