Scott Frost
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Nebraska with its facilities that are nothing but fabulous. Nebraska with a superb history and traditions. A fan base that is as great as any program. Nebraska with that name that always garners a look from recruits. Then people saying it will take years and years to recoup.
Then there is is a Central Florida that had a winless season. A school where most of the populous doesn’t know what city the school is in. No history of success. Then turn 180 degrees is less than two years.
Why not Nebraska with all the things going for it. Why must it take ten years here to regroup when lessor schools can do it with less resources. I could name others that have accomplished the feat in less than three years with much less going for it. Is the pressure from the press and the fans the problem? Or something else?
Then there is is a Central Florida that had a winless season. A school where most of the populous doesn’t know what city the school is in. No history of success. Then turn 180 degrees is less than two years.
Why not Nebraska with all the things going for it. Why must it take ten years here to regroup when lessor schools can do it with less resources. I could name others that have accomplished the feat in less than three years with much less going for it. Is the pressure from the press and the fans the problem? Or something else?
Look, the deal is that if Nebraska is in the market for a new coach at the end of the season you have to realistically think about who is out there to actually get. You can't just list a bunch of qualities, i.e. Power 5 school, great recruiting prowess, history of delivering championships, committed to a power running attack, etc. without looking at the actual available market. As it stands right now with what it looks like will be out there at the end of this season that Nebraska would actually have a shot a getting you'd better have SF on that list and rather high on that list.
Korn;n154718 said:
1. Frost is in Florida. It is a recruiting hotbed.
2. Following an 0-12 season, there is nowhere to go, but up.
Let's look at CFU over the same years since Solich was fired.
UCF under George O’Leary
2004 0-11 (Worst season in program history)
2005 8-5 (Loss in C-USA Championship & loss in Hawaii Bowl vs. Nevada in O.T.)
2006 4-8
2007 10-4 (Win in C-USA Championship & loss in Liberty Bowl vs. Mississippi State)
2008 4-8
2009 8-5 (Loss in St. Petersburg Bowl vs. Rutgers)
2010 11-3 (Win in C-USA Championship & Win in Liberty Bowl vs. Georgia)
2011 5-7
2012 10-4 (Lost in C-USA Championship & Win in Beef ‘O Brady’s Bow vs. Ball State)
2013 12-1 (American Athletic Conference Champions and Fiesta Bowl win vs. Baylor)
2014 9-4 (AAC Co-Champions and loss in St. Petersburg Bowl vs. N.C. State)
2015 0-12
UCF under Scott Frost
2016 6-7 (Loss in Cure Bowl vs. Arkansas State)
2017 5-0 (Two games, Georgia Tech & Maine, cancelled.)
Vs. FIU (4-2) 61-17
Vs. Maryland (3-2) 31-10
Vs. Memphis (5-1) 40-13
Vs. Cincinnati (2-5) 51-23
Vs. East Carolina (1-6) 63-21
Do you see a pattern at UCF? Is there enough data to make proclamations about Frost? In my mind, all we can say for sure are two things: 1. His offense is putting up some points. 2. A couple of the teams they've played have good records.
If we talk about their competition, though, can we agree that even though they've beat these teams soundly, it doesn't appear they have the most competitive schedule? I would've liked to see them play Georgia Tech. That would provide us with more data.
I am not against Frost coming back to Nebraska. My biggest question is, is he ready for this stage?
Pros: 1) Grew up in Nebraska, 2) played here, 3) won a national championship, 4) is a rising star and could be a homerun hire, and 5) winning convincingly.
Cons: 1) Limited head coach experience, 2) questionable competition, and 3) ?bad relationships with former teammates?
I think Scott Frost would make an excellent head coach--eventually. But 1.5 years as a head coach? I just do not know.
On the other hand, Pelini was an experienced coordinator and failed. Callahan was a successful coach (for one season) and failed. Riley has 20+ years of experience as a head coach and is in process of failing miserably.
So...who freaking knows????
Pros: 1) Grew up in Nebraska, 2) played here, 3) won a national championship, 4) is a rising star and could be a homerun hire, and 5) winning convincingly.
Cons: 1) Limited head coach experience, 2) questionable competition, and 3) ?bad relationships with former teammates?
I think Scott Frost would make an excellent head coach--eventually. But 1.5 years as a head coach? I just do not know.
On the other hand, Pelini was an experienced coordinator and failed. Callahan was a successful coach (for one season) and failed. Riley has 20+ years of experience as a head coach and is in process of failing miserably.
So...who freaking knows????
As far as I know, the only blemish is when he rear ended a fork lift in SW Iowa. Just a brain Toot, and everyone walked away......well, Scott limped away, and missed some training camp....but no alcohol, or excessive speed were involved..
I don't think he has being coaching long enough to get on the wrong side of the ncaa
I don't think he has being coaching long enough to get on the wrong side of the ncaa
I had totally forgotten the specific circumstances of the game when Frost was booed at Memorial Stadium so I Googled it. It's really amazing to me how our universe is connected.
"Frost never had more to prove than during the second game of this season. Osborne decided before the game to give backup quarterback Frankie London some quality playing time in the second quarter, so he sent him in for Frost with the Huskers trailing Central Florida 10-7 in Lincoln. London led Nebraska on a 65-yard scoring drive, and when Frost returned to the lineup on the Cornhuskers' next possession, some fans booed him."
The SI.com article from '97 is an interesting read in these times....
"Frost never had more to prove than during the second game of this season. Osborne decided before the game to give backup quarterback Frankie London some quality playing time in the second quarter, so he sent him in for Frost with the Huskers trailing Central Florida 10-7 in Lincoln. London led Nebraska on a 65-yard scoring drive, and when Frost returned to the lineup on the Cornhuskers' next possession, some fans booed him."
The SI.com article from '97 is an interesting read in these times....
This is just what I was told....not about Nebraska but Tennessee and one other SEC school have already came a knocking....and if you Frost Fans will READ the entire article you will see real fast He does NOT want to come back here right now..at least....new wife.....baby on the way.....her family lives there plus he can recruit and be home every night.....sorry to be the bearer of bad news but that ship has sailed.....move on.
It's clear to me that His Boss is going to pay him whatever it takes to keep him there....oh yeah this too his parents are house shopping in the south Florida area.....and not for a vacation home.....so you can clearly understand this is all information that is easy to look up on The Web.....none of it is hear say.....it's the printed word by Florida Media.....oh and don't get all butt hurt when you read the guy from the Orlando sentinel paper on line issue about Frost and Nebraska....just a warning to you they are perfect critical of us backwards farm and ranch folks up here and think we are stuck in the past.....not me I'm eternally moving forward.....but that don't mean I don't want a run first n your face big boy football team and Coach.....just watch Navy Football if you truly think running the ball is old fashioned and antiquated.....them swabbie's will ram the football right down your throat and tromp a mud hole in you in the process.....then just for good measure they will come back and tromp that mud hole dryer than a popcorn Toot in July.
Doc.
Doc Holiday;n154766 said:
I would think that someone who allegedly bled and sweat for NU would want us to have a great young coach (and a native son at that) to lead us back to greatness.
I guess not.
Mediocrity and irrelevance must not be all that bad after all.
Doc Holiday;n154766 said:
Its interesting. Sean Callahan said Scott Frost still wants the job. I've also heard that Frost has told other former teammates that he wants the job if the AD is right fit.
I guess we'll see.
I have no insider info, this is just an outside observation. I understand what Doc posted about his Mrs. Frost being pregnant, her family being in the area, and the convenience of recruiting in Florida all being very appealing to Scott. However I would guess that Scott's aspirations are bigger than UCF (certainly not a destination job - though many would make a strong argument Nebraska is no longer one either). Unless he is holding out for a specific opening I would have to imagine a traditional powerhouse like Nebraska or Tennessee would have to be pretty appealing. We will all have to wait and see...
Doc Holiday;n154766 said:
Skimmed through the article and I didn't get that impression at all, not saying it isn't true, but can you point me to what lead YOU to think this?
To me, this is fairly normal coach speak, it sure doesn't mean that he would turn down the right amount of money, IMO!
ATX_Husker;n154772 said:
Another thing, certainly its true that Orlando has more things to do. That would be appealing to a young man. But when you're thinking about a place to raise a family? The gap between Orlando and Lincoln isn't nearly as big.
Huskerfan2000;n154774 said:
I would guess money will not be the deciding factor regarding SF's return to NU, as all of the offers will be crazy money--that said, having TO on board with the new AD is huge, as if TO asks SF to come to Lincoln, and gives the AD his full support, I would see that as more important to SF than just "taking the high bid"
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