Yes I was wondering if their would be performance incentives. However from what Chris said it sounds as if it's just advertising appearances
NIL.
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I feel fortunate I wasn't raised to see all of "society's ills" through a racial lens or having a racial component. It never occurred to me who was benefitting from NIL based on skin color. I just long for the days when the team I have cheered for over 50 years on the Great Plains of Nebraska could compete with all the big schools on the coasts offering potential recruits perfect weather and sunny beaches. Now in many cases it's simply a bidding war to see who can offer the most money to steal recruits.I have to say, and maybe I am just cynical, but this giving players money has been going on since forever, albeit under the table. The NIL just brought what was already happening into the light. Truth is, college football has always the NFL's unpaid farm system. And now that players are making money, and are far less exploited, some fans are like, "I don't like this..."
I think the NIL should have been more clearly defined and regulated, but again, we live in a society that prioritizes individualism and utter greed, but now it's "bad" because (mostly) Black players are now reaping huge paydays from a corrupt system that made lots of white people rich? I wonder if there's a word for that?
Just out of curiosity, when did we start capitalizing "Black" and is it racist to not capitalize it?I have to say, and maybe I am just cynical, but this giving players money has been going on since forever, albeit under the table. The NIL just brought what was already happening into the light. Truth is, college football has always the NFL's unpaid farm system. And now that players are making money, and are far less exploited, some fans are like, "I don't like this..."
I think the NIL should have been more clearly defined and regulated, but again, we live in a society that prioritizes individualism and utter greed, but now it's "bad" because (mostly) Black players are now reaping huge paydays from a corrupt system that made lots of white people rich? I wonder if there's a word for that?
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The NCAA got billions for TV deals, football playoffs, and the NCAA basketball tournament.
TV networks get millions from advertisers to show the games
Coaches started getting paid $2, $3, $4, $5, $6 million a year.
Coaches started to really over sign and cut players.
Coaches are the the ones going after players in the portal and asking them to come to their schools while at the same time bitching about not being able to keep players and complaining that players aren't committed to anyone anymore.
Remember the NCAA was getting paid by EA Sports, etc to use players personal attributes in video games and telling the players sorry, you don't get a cut of that.
Now players are benefiting like they never had before from the whole system. It was just a matter of time until that happened.
TV networks get millions from advertisers to show the games
Coaches started getting paid $2, $3, $4, $5, $6 million a year.
Coaches started to really over sign and cut players.
Coaches are the the ones going after players in the portal and asking them to come to their schools while at the same time bitching about not being able to keep players and complaining that players aren't committed to anyone anymore.
Remember the NCAA was getting paid by EA Sports, etc to use players personal attributes in video games and telling the players sorry, you don't get a cut of that.
Now players are benefiting like they never had before from the whole system. It was just a matter of time until that happened.
He didn't want to take a pay cut.
I don't know why black was capitalized in that sentence and I don't believe it is racist to not capitalize it.
But that's just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions!
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99% of people didnt think about skin color when complaining about the NIL.I feel fortunate I wasn't raised to see all of "society's ills" through a racial lens or having a racial component. It never occurred to me who was benefitting from NIL based on skin color. I just long for the days when the team I have cheered for over 50 years on the Great Plains of Nebraska could compete with all the big schools on the coasts offering potential recruits perfect weather and sunny beaches. Now in many cases it's simply a bidding war to see who can offer the most money to steal recruits.
I will confess to you all that I do think about color when whining about NIL in CFB.
That color is GREEN!!!
From RED ED's link above: SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. – Within the coming weeks, the NCAA plans to crack down on boosters who are funding name, image and likeness payments to athletes, payments the association says are violations of long-standing NCAA rules. NCAA Council chairman Shane Lyons told CBS Sports the association's ruling body is motivated to push back against what is becoming a burgeoning scandal of disguised "pay for play" in college athletics.
Crack down??? Give. Me. A. Break.
How exactly are you planning to do that, NCAA? What separates a 'legit' NIL payment for services rendered from a...gasp...devious "pay for play" scam?
Inquiring Minds want to know.
Crack down??? Give. Me. A. Break.
How exactly are you planning to do that, NCAA? What separates a 'legit' NIL payment for services rendered from a...gasp...devious "pay for play" scam?
Inquiring Minds want to know.
Depends on who the team/coach is. I can see guess how this will be regulated. Not at all for some and damn near death penalty for others.
What criteria does an NCAA investigator use to differentiate illegal "pay for play" from legal "NIL"?
Does this mean that boosters can't participate? That would be a sure-fire lawsuit the NCAA wouldn't win?
Does it have to do with the amount of money an athlete can earn? That wouldn't work either. The courts have already made that perfectly clear in their original decision that student athletes have a right to make money -- whatever that amount is -- off their names.
For the life of me, I haven't the foggiest idea how the NCAA separates a legal payment versus an "illegal" one.
Neither do I. I would guess neither does the NCAA. I would further guess there will be discrepancies as far as who is penalized and to what extent.
Legit payments are ones made to the NCAA and its executives. Any payment to anyone else is illegal. At least that seems how it works with the NCAA.
I cannot wait until a top player is suspended for a game by a coach because he missed practice because he was making an appearance at the local car dealer.
And as far as I am concerned, these players deserve whatever NIL money they get (although I do think what Bryce Young at Alabama received was a tad over the top).
The Texas kid story - that smells and sounds like tampering - IF the school was involved directly.
Problem is you can send somebody an NIL offer without being affiliated with the University you want to help. So policing this is hard. Hell - it was hard when it was white envelopes and handshakes too.
States are reluctant to put NIL restrictions in place because they don't want their universities to be at a disadvantage. So honestly I don't think this changes unless there is Federal regulation OR whatever ruling body that the replaces the NCAA for Power 5 schools decides to enact a "cap". NCAA ain't doing bupkis.
The NCAA can modify the transfer portal rules to put some stability back in the process. I think they went too far due to COVID - the power to fix it is there and likely most schools would support it.
Problem is you can send somebody an NIL offer without being affiliated with the University you want to help. So policing this is hard. Hell - it was hard when it was white envelopes and handshakes too.
States are reluctant to put NIL restrictions in place because they don't want their universities to be at a disadvantage. So honestly I don't think this changes unless there is Federal regulation OR whatever ruling body that the replaces the NCAA for Power 5 schools decides to enact a "cap". NCAA ain't doing bupkis.
The NCAA can modify the transfer portal rules to put some stability back in the process. I think they went too far due to COVID - the power to fix it is there and likely most schools would support it.
