New A.D. / Coaching thread......

Cdog923;n154468 said:
Reports out that Jeff Long from Arkansas and Rob Mullens from Oregon are the two at the top of the list. I would much, much prefer Mullens over Long.

We don't need anyone with ties to Arkansas.
 
cornstar;n154485 said:
Riley won't bring us back to relevance.

Frost would be a better option.

Riley might need to get sacked.....I have never said he for sure should be kept.....

My biggest concern if he does get fired....(Frost would be like the worst option available but I am not at all worried about him coming back here seriously)....my biggest worry is the kids here now, we do have a perdy good bunch of young guys that don't deserve all the turmoil another coaching change in just 3 years is going to make.....who in their right mind wants another 4-5 years of loosing and hearing all the negative bull crap that gets spread around the different types of media while yet another coach gets his guys in here to play whatever type ball he wants....

That would just about put the final nail in the coffin for the future of the Big Red.....there is just so much relevance and street credit that can be carried or maintained before the name Cornhuskers will be one of those "hey.....didn't they win a lot of stuff way back when people didn't have cars yet or something like that ?.....kids will forget and would rather play intermural flag football rather than go to get embarrassed every week playing at NEBRASKA.....for goodness sake.

Just Sick......

Doc.

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Doc Holiday;n154494 said:
Riley might need to get sacked.....I have never said he for sure should be kept.....

My biggest concern if he does get fired....(Frost would be like the worst option available but I am not at all worried about him coming back here seriously)....my biggest worry is the kids here now, we do have a perdy good bunch of young guys that don't deserve all the turmoil another coaching change in just 3 years is going to make.....who in their right mind wants another 4-5 years of loosing and hearing all the negative bull crap that gets spread around the different types of media while yet another coach gets his guys in here to play whatever type ball he wants....

That would just about put the final nail in the coffin for the future of the Big Red.....there is just so much relevance and street credit that can be carried or maintained before the name Cornhuskers will be one of those "hey.....didn't they win a lot of stuff way back when people didn't have cars yet or something like that ?.....kids will forget and would rather play intermural flag football rather than go to get embarrassed every week playing at NEBRASKA.....for goodness sake.

Just Sick......

Doc.

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I keep thinking well Riley will get these guys together. Change the bad things. The players will get better. What makes you think it will change next year?

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Doc Holiday;n154494 said:
Riley might need to get sacked.....I have never said he for sure should be kept.....

My biggest concern if he does get fired....(Frost would be like the worst option available but I am not at all worried about him coming back here seriously)....my biggest worry is the kids here now, we do have a perdy good bunch of young guys that don't deserve all the turmoil another coaching change in just 3 years is going to make.....who in their right mind wants another 4-5 years of loosing and hearing all the negative bull crap that gets spread around the different types of media while yet another coach gets his guys in here to play whatever type ball he wants....

That would just about put the final nail in the coffin for the future of the Big Red.....there is just so much relevance and street credit that can be carried or maintained before the name Cornhuskers will be one of those "hey.....didn't they win a lot of stuff way back when people didn't have cars yet or something like that ?.....kids will forget and would rather play intermural flag football rather than go to get embarrassed every week playing at NEBRASKA.....for goodness sake.

Just Sick......

Doc.

With all due respect, I'm still trying to figure out why you think Frost is "the worst " option.

He's a better coach than Riley.

Also, a coaching change doesn't doom any program to 3 to 5 years of losing.

Total nonsense.

See Frost, Meyer, Harbaugh, Stoops, Pederson, Leach, Franklin, Saban, hell, Pelini at Nebraska, etc, etc, etc.

What will continue the program mired in irrelevance is keeping an aging, lame duck, coach who delivers terrible results and is on the perpetual hot seat.
 
Doc...why the hate for Frost? Is it just because he has Nebraska ties? Cause Tennessee and A&M fans want him. I think a lot of poor ole blindly say they don't want him because they dearly want those that say we need a Nebraska guy to be wrong.
 
Doc Holiday;n154494 said:
Riley might need to get sacked.....I have never said he for sure should be kept.....

My biggest concern if he does get fired....(Frost would be like the worst option available but I am not at all worried about him coming back here seriously)....my biggest worry is the kids here now, we do have a perdy good bunch of young guys that don't deserve all the turmoil another coaching change in just 3 years is going to make.....who in their right mind wants another 4-5 years of loosing and hearing all the negative bull crap that gets spread around the different types of media while yet another coach gets his guys in here to play whatever type ball he wants....

That would just about put the final nail in the coffin for the future of the Big Red.....there is just so much relevance and street credit that can be carried or maintained before the name Cornhuskers will be one of those "hey.....didn't they win a lot of stuff way back when people didn't have cars yet or something like that ?.....kids will forget and would rather play intermural flag football rather than go to get embarrassed every week playing at NEBRASKA.....for goodness sake.

Just Sick......

Doc.

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Why does a coaching change = 4 to 5 more years of losing???? How does keeping Mike Riley NOT = 4-5 more years of losing. I say cut ties and take our chances we can do ALOT better. We have seen what this group can do and it SUCKS. 8 straight possesions with a TD??? 40+ first downs??? 600+ yards given up???? Come on Doc you cant tell me making a change in coaches means it gets worse than this.
 
Hey Doc,
So you are an elk hunting outfitter and guide? Where do you take your clientele? Great elk hunting in the Gila Mountains and Pecos wilderness here in NM...
 
Doc, I'll take your guiding skills if you want to come over here to Montana! Rifle season starts next weekend!
 
Hunchback Johnny;n154514 said:
Hey Doc,
So you are an elk hunting outfitter and guide? Where do you take your clientele? Great elk hunting in the Gila Mountains and Pecos wilderness here in NM...

I'd rather have been elk hunting than watching this game.

Maybe Doc can hook me up.

100% serious. That's my dream hunt.
 
I'm coming to the conclusion that for a short period of time, we need to forget that we were a powerhouse. Forget the trophies, the championships and the accolades. We are where we are RIGHT NOW. What, and who, is it going to take to pull us out. What is it going to take to move a midlevel program to the next level. We might have been blinded by what was, so we can't truly see what is.

We need an insightful, and forward thinking AD, with no other agenda than to make husker sports relevant.......period. There will come a time when we can meld the past and the present, but not now. Now we need to start over and get it right......from the bottom up, or the top down....take your pick.
 
Ok we're getting packed up for the Short trip home and are sitting around finishing our Breakfast of fresh Trout, Scrambled Eggs, Hash browns, sourdough toast and of course....Good Hot Coffee....not the fancy schmancy crap but good old fashioned boiled in a big stoneware pot over an open fire...egg shells and a couple dashes of super secret ingredient Cowboy Coffee.....no Expresso for this bunch.....maybe a little milk in a couple of guys cups and some sugar for those with a sweet tooth but just plain old fashioned good old Hunting Camp Cooking....we thank the Clients 12 yr old son for the mess of real nice Brook and Rainbow Trout and if course my long time friend and camp boss Henry Light Elk....his cooking skills are second to none and he is the best friend I have had since College....I will be truly blessed if Henry and I have another 20 years together not as Boss and employee but the best of friends....he and I have walked many a mile, crossed many a river, climbed many a mountain and rode down more high mountain valleys than I can count and in his matter of fact.way here this morning while everybody else was either still asleep or just starting to stir after last night's celebration of yet another memory made for a Father and Son.....Hank (Henry) says to me.....while I was sipping my first cup of coffee staring into the red hot coals of the last morning campfire....in his normal matter of fact tone he put the whole era of Coach Mike Riley in perspective with just a few short and to the point words....Hank isn't much for long drawn out conversations, or philosophical discussion's about the current state of NEBRASKA Football....see Hank being a full blood Lakota Sioux born and raised on the sparse reservations of North west Nebraska/Southwest South Dakota....he too grew up rooting for the Cornhuskers and at the University in Lincoln was actually where we first met....anyhow Hank looks over his cup of Coffee at me and says "well we're no worse off today than we were when they hired this Oregon State Coach.....and we do have a lot better talent now than we did back when they hired this guy right ? He asked me in his soft spoken kinda backward way of what words to express ....like all People of the Tribes from the plains do....I looked up at him and grunted and nodded my agreement.....then went back to looking into the fire like I was waiting for an answer to suddenly rise up in the smoke like some vision of mysterious origin......then Hank goes on to say....."This Coach Riley.....you an me had no idea even who he was remember when you got that call right before the public announcement that the A.D. had zeroed in on a new guy very quickly.....you remember that......? Again I just grunted my approval as Hank continued...." We both said Who the heck is Mike Riley ? Well my brother, Hank continued .....it's not so bad if we now can find a REAL HONEST TOUGH NOSED BALL COACH ........dang Indian....he knows just how to put things right into perspective......maybe moving forward under a new guy like Les Miles......


Doc.
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I'm not sure I've never seen a team more methodically slice through nebraska like Ohio state did, but more importantly I don't think I've ever wanted to go fishing or hunting worse then after reading Docs post
 
rod, please, brother. Did you forget about TTU? KU? Okie State? Wiscy? Wiscy II? etc., etc. We've been here so long they all start to run together...

But, yeah. Doc's got a way with words.
 
HuskerVotary;n154540 said:
rod, please, brother. Did you forget about TTU? KU? Okie State? Wiscy? Wiscy II? etc., etc. We've been here so long they all start to run together...

But, yeah. Doc's got a way with words.

NONE of those teams scored TDs on 8 straight possesions. NONE of those teams had 40+ first downs. I am not sure that any of them put up as many yards as OSU did last night. Not sure the actual total but it was way over 600. I think all of those teams punted at least once. Hell OSU was perfect on 3rd downs until the last drive the starters were in. They then converted on 4th down. I realize some of those teams scored more than OSU did but to me last night was the worst. It was like we couldnt stop them at all. And it was from the very first drive they had. With the other games it was way later in the game before you felt the HUSKERS were overwhelmed. Last night it was right off the bat.
And Doc your buddy Hank says we arent any worse off than when we hired Riley??? Man I totally disagree with that statement. We are far more worse off now than we were the day he was hired.
 

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