Medical Redshirt (or Hardship) for TM?

[Guest]

Have to disagree.

I think of with a musician's mind ( I used to play professionally) - there's a fluidity of performance wherein the best performer eliminates everything that distracts: uncertainty, tension, confusion, distraction, superfluous movement. When playing a concerto the notes fly by- you need to be in that perfect zone or the chances of failure increase exponentially. Eliminating uncertainly equates to confidence and that might be most important.

In the context of a receiver, if you cannot eliminate the uncertainty that your QB might be on a different page... or if the QB makes you get to a place where there is higher jeopardy of getting clocked, blindsided, never knowing if the ball will be right there... then the chances you do not perform optimally go up. Even if the play appears to be one where it all looked "normal", if the receiver's have that, even subconsciously, in their heads, then no, a drop is not a drop.

That's not putting 100% of it on the QB - but I think some significant blames lies there.

You make some good points, but IMO, you are making more of this than what it is. I could be wrong, I guess.

But if you are spot on, then wouldn't Tommy's INCs be more on him and Taylor's more on the WRs?? Taylor is the more accurate thrower.

 

[Huskergod84]

When you are a reciever playing Div 1 and the ball is thrown to you and hits your hands you catch it. Plain and simple. If you want to play at the next level you dang sure better be catching it when it hits your hands. There will be dropped passes do to lack of concentration or a ball being tipped or a pass be a little ahead or behind but if you want to play in the NFL you had better be able to adjust and make catches or you will be watching on tv with the rest of us.

 

[Johnny Blackshirt]

I really like TM but I cant wait to see TA next year.

 

[Guest]

I really like TM but I cant wait to see TA next year.

Husker Nation has been in "Wait till next year" mode for over a decade. I prefer to live in the present and appreciate what Taylor has done for this program. He has put up great numbers, played hurt, played with great effort, and has led the Huskers to some great comeback victories.

This would normally endear him to Husker faithful, but...he's a bit uncomfortable with the press, and has an awkward throwing motion, so he has unfairly become the symbol of Husker failures during his career.

Back up QB is always the most popular player on a football team with unrealistic expectations. Even one with a very suspect defense. If TA has a game like he had at Purdue next year, I suspect there will be those looking forward to Stanton and 2015.

 

[Guest]

^^^what he said

 

[Solly]

Husker Nation has been in "Wait till next year" mode for over a decade. I prefer to live in the present and appreciate what Taylor has done for this program. He has put up great numbers, played hurt, played with great effort, and has led the Huskers to some great comeback victories.

This would normally endear him to Husker faithful, but...he's a bit uncomfortable with the press, and has an awkward throwing motion, so he has unfairly become the symbol of Husker failures during his career.

Back up QB is always the most popular player on a football team with unrealistic expectations. Even one with a very suspect defense. If TA has a game like he had at Purdue next year, I suspect there will be those looking forward to Stanton and 2015.

EXCELLENT post!

 

[valiantsailor]

I really like TM but I cant wait to see TA next year.

thumbs up Johnny

 

[valiantsailor]

There is no doubt about that. The most important aspect.....maybe, maybe not, but its certainly at the top of the list.



Yep. Which 38 unasnwered points? Are you referring to the B1G CCG?? If so, please answer the question, how would Tommy or Ron, or hell, Peyton Manning have stopped the jet sweep?

Thanks for the link to the OSU game. It proves my point, how would have a change in QBs effected the defense and special teams giving up a 10 point lead and having 56 hung on them?

Short memory? I was thinking about the UCLA game, 38 unanswered. I think you forget the pick 6 in the OSU game and 2 more. One resulted in a 14 point spread in the OSU game as well.

Turnovers are killers. Look at the two in the NU game today which resulted in a Minnesota win, or the turnover in the Lv game that probably cost LV that game on Thursday nite. YOU simply under estimate the damage done by turnovers. Taylor led the nation in turnovers last year. Did you forget the pick 6 in the Wisky game? It has gone on and on. Time to move on.

 

[Guest]

Or all of Clemson's turnovers tonight opening the floodgates. FSU was going to win regardless, but without the turnovers it might have at least been interesting.

 

[NIdahohusker]

For those that think TA is the next coming of Tommy Frazier, remember this. TM had bigger stats as a freshman with less support from those around him. Johnny Manziel and this years phenome from Florida St had "It" as freshman. Armstrong has shown some ability, but is not an All Big 10 QB at this point. TM played hurt, having been injured in the Wyoming game, played against NU's only team with a pulse, and has better passing stats than TA, and comparable running stats. Shoot, Kellogg looked better last week and has a far better passing rating than TA. TM will play a bit against Minnesota if his toe allows, and will play most of the meaningful snaps the rest of the way if he is 90% healthy. TA will have his hands full beating out Stanton who is Scott Frost without the shot-put delivery. And we will need both of them 2014-2016 if we continue to run with the QB.

 

[valiantsailor]

Shoot, Kellogg looked better last week and has a far better passing rating than TA.

I don't think any one is going to dispute that. Heck, if Bo wants to start him, he has my support.

 

[Guest]

Husker Nation has been in "Wait till next year" mode for over a decade. I prefer to live in the present and appreciate what Taylor has done for this program. He has put up great numbers, played hurt, played with great effort, and has led the Huskers to some great comeback victories.

This would normally endear him to Husker faithful, but...he's a bit uncomfortable with the press, and has an awkward throwing motion, so he has unfairly become the symbol of Husker failures during his career.

Back up QB is always the most popular player on a football team with unrealistic expectations. Even one with a very suspect defense. If TA has a game like he had at Purdue next year, I suspect there will be those looking forward to Stanton and 2015.

For those that think TA is the next coming of Tommy Frazier, remember this. TM had bigger stats as a freshman with less support from those around him. Johnny Manziel and this years phenome from Florida St had "It" as freshman. Armstrong has shown some ability, but is not an All Big 10 QB at this point. TM played hurt, having been injured in the Wyoming game, played against NU's only team with a pulse, and has better passing stats than TA, and comparable running stats. Shoot, Kellogg looked better last week and has a far better passing rating than TA. TM will play a bit against Minnesota if his toe allows, and will play most of the meaningful snaps the rest of the way if he is 90% healthy. TA will have his hands full beating out Stanton who is Scott Frost without the shot-put delivery. And we will need both of them 2014-2016 if we continue to run with the QB.

Both posts 100% spot on.

 

[Guest]

Short memory? I was thinking about the UCLA game, 38 unanswered.

Sorry, the DEFENSE has been so bad the past few years that I must have been confused. So, how was TMart, or Tommy, or Ron going to help fit into the run defense or cover the WRs to stop those 38 unanswered points?

Turnovers are killers.

100% correct.

Look at the two in the NU game today which resulted in a Minnesota win, or the turnover in the Lv game that probably cost LV that game on Thursday nite.

Didn't watch.

YOU simply under estimate the damage done by turnovers.

Not at all.

Taylor led the nation in turnovers last year.

Agreed.

Did you forget the pick 6 in the Wisky game?

Do you mean the one that hit Bell right in his hands and Bell dropped? Again, please explain what Taylor was supposed to do to prevent that pick 6? I'm dying to hear a reasonable explaination.

I'd also love an answer as to how TMart is responsible for the 600+ yards the defense gave up in that game.

It has gone on and on. Time to move on.

Move on from the All Big 10 QB to a RS FR who right now isn't 1/2 the QB of the 5th year (when healthy) senior?? I'm not sure if you caught the Purdue game, but Tommy looked ever bit the turnover machine that you complain that Taylor is.

Common sense be damned, I guess..........

 

[valiantsailor]

Short memory? I was thinking about the UCLA game, 38 unanswered.

That is 6 possessions without any points. That isn't on the D its on the O.

 

[redfred]

That is 6 possessions without any points. That isn't on the D its on the O.

I think it might be on both. There is enough blame to go around in that game.

 

[JackD]

I think it might be on both. There is enough blame to go around in that game.

I'm not saying the D doesn't deserve some blame for 38 unanswered, but how does the D get some of the blame for the offense only scoring on 1 drive that started more than 30 yards from the end zone and racking a whopping 330 yards on offense against a D that has looked soft against Utah and Stanford

 

[Guest]

That is 6 possessions without any points. That isn't on the D its on the O.

I'm not saying the D doesn't deserve some blame for 38 unanswered, but how does the D get some of the blame for the offense only scoring on 1 drive that started more than 30 yards from the end zone and racking a whopping 330 yards on offense against a D that has looked soft against Utah and Stanford

I think it might be on both. There is enough blame to go around in that game.

I won't disagree with any of this, it was a whole team meltdown, no doubt about it. TMart being injured didn't help at all. But to put all of the blame on Taylor is nearsided at best.

 

[joshuahuskers]

Taylor is practicing. He will play in another game and will not be eligible for medical hardship. Can we put this topic to bed?

 

[JackD]

There is no doubt football is the ultimate team game, that is why the O deserves part of the blame for the D's failure in big games the past few years. Anybody that does not correlate the two positively is lacking basic football knowledge. Against UCLA (the topic above) the offense had a 3 possession lead in the second quarter, after that they failed to generate first downs, melt the clock and score points. This put the defense in a difficult position that lead to the worst snowball effect I've ever seen at Memorial Stadium (not the worst lost, the biggest shift in negative moment from jubilation to despair). UCLA scored 4 TD's in the third quarter, but the real question to consider is "How in the $@^! did they get the ball 4 times in the 3rd quarter?" Nebraska received the opening kickoff of the quarter, at that point if they score and go up 28-10 the game is completely different and NU likely wins (based upon historic odds calculations). Instead, they hold the ball for less then 3 minutes and punt. UCLA scores after that, NU 3-and-out, UCLA TD, NU 3-and-out, UCLA TD, NU turnover on downs at our own 44, UCLA TD. The offense did not hold up their end of the bargain, leaving the defense to defend a short field with little rest or time to adjust. Whether it is fair or not the QB receives the credit and blame for the offenses performance, TM was the QB at the time when the offense failed miserably; thus he receives the blame (just or unjust is irrelevant). Fans understand the meltdown against UCLA is a part of the game, the difficultly for the fan base is that with TM it has been constant. In all but the WISC game last year NU was leading or within 7 points during the 3rd quarter, they preceded to lost by 6 (acceptable), 25, and 14; in 2011 it was a failure in the second half against Michigan, NW and South Carolina. I doubt many NU fans truly believe TA is better than TM at this point, but they are tired of watching NU lose by unacceptably large margins

 

[Guest]

I doubt many NU fans truly believe TA is better than TM at this point, but they are tired of watching NU lose by unacceptably large margins

I agree with most of what you said except this^^^^. So, what exactly would putting in admittedly the lesser of the 2 QBs do but make the game worse??? TA doesn't give us a better chance to win, so do the fans clammoring for him really give a damn about winning??? To that, I will refer you to an excellent quote from your post:

Anybody that does not correlate the two positively is lacking basic football knowledge.

And in another turn of events, I have yet to get an answer to these two questions:

Do you mean the one that hit Bell right in his hands and Bell dropped? Again, please explain what Taylor was supposed to do to prevent that pick 6? I'm dying to hear a reasonable explaination.

I'd also love an answer as to how TMart is responsible for the 600+ yards the defense gave up in that game.