Hoiberg Hired!!!

Some of you saw an earlier post where I mentioned a comment I got from my dickish ISU alum, brother-in-law, Dan, at a family funeral this week. Dan expressed skepticism when I said the 'word of the street' was that Nebraska was getting his former coach. He opined that Hoiberg had a lot more attractive options to consider than Nebraska.

Since I don't see my brother-in-law that often, my dilemma is figuring out how bring it up with him without looking like a dick myself.

If I call or text him now, that would definitely be showing my own dickish side. He'd immediately know that I just wanted to rub the news in his face. I'm thinking my best strategy would be to be patient, bite my tongue, and wait for our next family get together this summer.

I want this cold dish of revenge to be served up in the COOLEST, nonchalant way possible. hehehe :evilgrin0007:

OK Doc, now you're starting to make this sound like this is just a bit premeditated...........which is of course, the very best way to get revenge:).

We've been the butt of many digs, both in football and basketball, for longer than I care to admit. If things go the way I think they may in both sports, I might become pretty insufferable myself.;)
 
It's been said around here a lot.....but I'm going to say it one more time. Often hires are only partly made because of money, or facilities, or fan base, or opportunity. A large part of hires are made because of relationships imo......specifically with administration. Moos played a large role here imo. If the relationship fit isn't right, you don't accept. Most articles don't mention this, but husker fans do......a lot. We have seen first hand when you have the wrong men behind the scenes what happens.

The closest analogy I can think of is that an AD recruits coaches much like coaches recruit players. Some are good at it and some aren't. Some can evaluate talent and fit, and some just listen to others to make their decisions for them.

It's too early to anoint Frost and Fred as successes, but this fan base usually has a pretty good idea if the incoming coach has a decent chance of success, and we can maintain enthusiasm even when a coach doesn't make a bowl his first year........or maybe not make the ncaa tourney his first year. We're excited, and I think for good reason, but if Moos had stubbed his toe on either hire we would most likely be a little uneasy about now.

The brain trust that helped make this hire understood how coaches and Administrators connect......or don't. That intimate, sometimes tenuous, sometimes strong, but always important relationship can make or break a program. Right now it appears we have some programs that are being made.
 
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It's been said around here a lot.....but I'm going to say it one more time. Often hires are only partly made because of money, or facilities, or fan base, or opportunity. A large part of hires are made because of relationships imo......specifically with administration. Moos played a large role here imo. If the relationship fit isn't right, you don't accept. Most articles don't mention this, but husker fans do......a lot.

Another awesome post, redfred!!! :thumbsup:

With the Hoiberg hire, the behind-the-scenes crapping on Moos by some unnamed donors looks even more petty and ridiculous.

Maybe, just maybe, Bill wanted to clean up the department's remaining financial commitments to former coaches in order to set the table for a big time, splash BB hire.
 
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Another awesome post, redfred!!! :thumbsup:

With the Hoiberg hire, the behind-the-scenes crapping on Moos by some unnamed donors looks even more petty and ridiculous.

Maybe, just maybe, Bill wanted to clean up the department's remaining financial commitments to former coaches in order to set the table for a big time, splash BB hire.
That certainly makes a lot of sense given the hire he has just made.
 
It's been said around here a lot.....but I'm going to say it one more time. Often hires are only partly made because of money, or facilities, or fan base, or opportunity. A large part of hires are made because of relationships imo......specifically with administration. Moos played a large role here imo. If the relationship fit isn't right, you don't accept. Most articles don't mention this, but husker fans do......a lot. We have seen first hand when you have the wrong men behind the scenes what happens.

The closest analogy I can think of is that an AD recruits coaches much like coaches recruit players. Some are good at it and some aren't. Some can evaluate talent and fit, and some just listen to others to make their decisions for them.

It's too early to anoint Frost and Fred as successes, but this fan base usually has a pretty good idea if the incoming coach has a decent chance of success, and we can maintain enthusiasm even when a coach doesn't make a bowl his first year........or maybe not make the ncaa tourney his first year. We're excited, and I think for good reason, but if Moos had stubbed his toe on either hire we would most likely be a little uneasy about now.

The brain trust that helped make this hire understood how coaches and Administrators connect......or don't. That intimate, sometimes tenuous, sometimes strong, but always important relationship can make or break a program. Right now it appears we have some programs that are being made.
I think the level headed fans of Nebraska do understand coaching talent, know it when they see it.
Its when our cups runneth over in our assessments of a coach, things we know work, but then theres more to that coach, where they bring the full enchilada, and we as fans are only more excited about their potential on things those coaches are great at that aren't within a particular fans wheelhouse.
I think we now have two of these coaches aboard, all thanks to AD Moos.
 
NU has finally figured it out. You can't hire coaches on the cheap. They have hired to many guys who were deemed diamonds in the rough but just turned out to be lumps of coal.
 
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It's been said around here a lot.....but I'm going to say it one more time. Often hires are only partly made because of money, or facilities, or fan base, or opportunity. A large part of hires are made because of relationships imo......specifically with administration. Moos played a large role here imo. If the relationship fit isn't right, you don't accept. Most articles don't mention this, but husker fans do......a lot. We have seen first hand when you have the wrong men behind the scenes what happens.

The closest analogy I can think of is that an AD recruits coaches much like coaches recruit players. Some are good at it and some aren't. Some can evaluate talent and fit, and some just listen to others to make their decisions for them.

It's too early to anoint Frost and Fred as successes, but this fan base usually has a pretty good idea if the incoming coach has a decent chance of success, and we can maintain enthusiasm even when a coach doesn't make a bowl his first year........or maybe not make the ncaa tourney his first year. We're excited, and I think for good reason, but if Moos had stubbed his toe on either hire we would most likely be a little uneasy about now.

The brain trust that helped make this hire understood how coaches and Administrators connect......or don't. That intimate, sometimes tenuous, sometimes strong, but always important relationship can make or break a program. Right now it appears we have some programs that are being made.

Absolutely agree Fred. I've been saying for years that if Men's Hoops wants to compete nationally they need to lay down the coin to get a top notch coach. We have some of the best facilities in the country and Hoiberg knew that and wants to be a part of that. I'm not expecting miracles this next season but if somehow he leads us to the NCAA tourney in his 1st year....Holy moly I think we'll know we hired the right guy. And if he get us our first tourney win (when that happens in his 1st 3 years) then we'll all know we hired the right guy.
 
NU has finally figured it out. You can't hire coaches on the cheap. They have hired to many guys who were deemed diamonds in the rough but just turned out to be lumps of coal.

It's very telling Cigarman when the 2 biggest hires you make that 99.9% of Husker nation is onboard with the hire. The last several Football and Basketball coaches Husker Nation has been pretty evenly split.
 
As most of you know I am by no means a Basketball guy but we have always supported all the Husker athletes but honestly I am sad to see Coach Miles go....he was a great person and did his best here....I thought maybe....just maybe this guy had the right personality and ability to get us over the hump in Basketball but in the end it just didnt work out for what ever reason.
I understand how things work and am a realist.....and I knew something had to happen good or bad for us to move forward.
I actually know quite a bit about "The Mayor" as Hoiberg is called and his family and yes he is the perfect choice for us at this point.....and I know he can get the job we want done......DONE.....SO with that said farewell Coach Miles it was really great to of had the chance to meet and enjoy you. Good luck in your future...its going to be good where ever you wind up.
and Welcome Home Coach Hoiberg.....Da Mayor is in the house and things are looking up in Huskerville Baby

Doc.
 
As most of you know I am by no means a Basketball guy but we have always supported all the Husker athletes but honestly I am sad to see Coach Miles go....he was a great person and did his best here....I thought maybe....just maybe this guy had the right personality and ability to get us over the hump in Basketball but in the end it just didnt work out for what ever reason.
I understand how things work and am a realist.....and I knew something had to happen good or bad for us to move forward.
I actually know quite a bit about "The Mayor" as Hoiberg is called and his family and yes he is the perfect choice for us at this point.....and I know he can get the job we want done......DONE.....SO with that said farewell Coach Miles it was really great to of had the chance to meet and enjoy you. Good luck in your future...its going to be good where ever you wind up.
and Welcome Home Coach Hoiberg.....Da Mayor is in the house and things are looking up in Huskerville Baby

Doc.

I couldn't have said it better.
 
As most of you know I am by no means a Basketball guy but we have always supported all the Husker athletes but honestly I am sad to see Coach Miles go....he was a great person and did his best here....I thought maybe....just maybe this guy had the right personality and ability to get us over the hump in Basketball but in the end it just didnt work out for what ever reason.
I understand how things work and am a realist.....and I knew something had to happen good or bad for us to move forward.
I actually know quite a bit about "The Mayor" as Hoiberg is called and his family and yes he is the perfect choice for us at this point.....and I know he can get the job we want done......DONE.....SO with that said farewell Coach Miles it was really great to of had the chance to meet and enjoy you. Good luck in your future...its going to be good where ever you wind up.
and Welcome Home Coach Hoiberg.....Da Mayor is in the house and things are looking up in Huskerville Baby

Doc.
I think Miles will do fine at the right place - he never quite got over the hump on recruiting vs. Big 10 talent. At a mid-major where you can build teams with a few stars and a bunch of roll players - especially if you can get them to play D - Miles could really excel. He'll land on his feet.
 
I think Miles will do fine at the right place ... At a mid-major where you can build teams with a few stars and a bunch of roll players - especially if you can get them to play D - Miles could really excel. He'll land on his feet.

No question that Miles will land on his feet. The question is: does Miles want to coach again?

In the past Miles has expressed an interest in being a national basketball color commentator. Given his exposure at Nebraska, this would seem like the perfect time to get into the business as a BTN guy to start. Given that most of the big time commentators are getting long in the tooth, I think he has the potential to become a break-out star down the road.