Gebbia gone.

[NorthwoodHusker]

Name the last staff that had a commit two years in advance that also hasnt coached a snap here?
I'll keep pounding that drum til its heard, this is our new norm, we will see this going forwards, and not just some guy, but sure fit cant miss types that simply want to play,to start.
Thats miles ahead of where we were, and as I pointed out, which the staff can as well, look at oregons current qb, recruited by coach Frost, he hung around, now he's starting.
If a recruit, top notch or hidden gem, chooses to play it out, theres a chance with many ways of getting to be the starter, they of course need the confidence in themselves, which is a huge thing at qb, plus the skills, but if they do, they also can expect to not only be treated as men and equals, but coached by some of todays finest.

 

[johnmcmillen]

You are REALLY overreacting here IMO. Do you:

1) really think Gebbia had earned it?
2) that Gebbia, a square peg in Frost’s scheme’s round hole with, honestly no more really significant experience was truly gonna be better?
3) should Masker been the one to start? He’s the one one with most and most recent game experience?

You really think that by choosing the best fit from among four QB’s with no significant experience and not the one that had a teeny bit of game experience is an insult to all Husker players who came before?

Or do you really just don’t like Frost?


Or do we give the staff a year to get the best players the most experience as soon as possible?
Martinez will have more experience than Gebbia in the coming two weeks.

I have no problem with SF. He's the best new coach in the business right now. His schemes are going to be copied for a long time. And IMO, AM is easily the type of QB he wants. My point is this. SF created a mess and put the whole team/season in jeopardy with how he handled this. We now have a starting QB (who's never taken a hit on his surgically repaired arm) with zero scholarship players behind him. If he goes down, then what? We play the 2nd hardest schedule in football with 2 walk-ons?

Stop thinking SF is Jesus for a minute. He blew this and if it goes south, he's to blame. He should have had all of these guys in full contact in spring to at least to see how they do in live contact. I'd have no problem with AM then. But to elevate him as the first-ever starting freshman QB without even so much as getting tackled, not once, is flat out inexcusable. Times have changed, but if you want to tell me that we should start picking QBs because of how well they throw in warm-up then you and I will have to agree to disagree.

FYI, I live in Fresno about 1/2 mile from AM's house. I know how good he is. What you all don't know is California football is soft. It's basketball on grass. Most players here aren't B1G tough. For the most part, physically they fit in perfectly with the Pac 12 and that style of football. This kid has no idea of what's about to happen when a B1G defense lights him up. And neither does SF.

I hope he does well. I think he'll be similar to T-Mart was as a frosh -- faster than everyone else on the field. But if you want a championship back at NU, then you better have a QB who can take a pounding and lead his team in the teeth of championship defenses (Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn State). And yet we have a starting QB who's never been tackled. Go figure.

 

[SUHnami]

QBs are going to come, and QBs are going to go. You can only start one of them. You hate to lose any of them as that's depth that's gone but honestly when Frost brings in more QBs that fit his system, we'll have fewer of them leave. Why? Because they fit our system and know the coaching staff. TG was not and would've never been recruited by Frost. Period. No way.

So for anyone questioning Frost on this, is insane. So what if AM hasn't played in 2 years? Neither has TG.

I didn't want to see Gebbia leave but I don't blame him. It hurts us depth wise but to be honest (and it's been alluded to by other people) If he stays he may get a chance to start and help us in a time of need, but after this season again he's not going to win the starting job. Especially if AM is healthy and the 2019 kid is an athlete like AM. Now TG is 3rd string or worse 4th string. So now he's wasted a year playing backup at Nebraska and lose another year where if he leave now, next year he has 3 years to play/start.

 

[johnmcmillen]

Sounds like johmncmillon was a QB on one of TO teams. So I would say you should bring it up to HCSF and maybe he could give you a better explanation then you can come back on here and let us in on what was said.
I'm curious what you think of the idea of bringing in a Joe Burrow as a transfer? Would that make sense?

Joe Burrow looks like a missed opportunity right now, but at the time, I agreed with it. NU had 3 capable guys with another in the wings (Vedral -- I played with his dad). Hindsight is 20/20.

My theory is SF is playing for next year and that's smart. Can't blame him for that. NU is absolutely loaded next season with a soft schedule. Anything less than B10 West champs will be a disappointment. But it just sits wrong with me that he handed the keys to a new Ferrari to a teenager who hasn't even learned to drive yet, other than on PlayStation and backing the car out of the garage a couple of times. It sure would be nice if he was road tested.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

I have no problem with SF. He's the best new coach in the business right now. His schemes are going to be copied for a long time. And IMO, AM is easily the type of QB he wants. My point is this. SF created a mess and put the whole team/season in jeopardy with how he handled this. We now have a starting QB (who's never taken a hit on his surgically repaired arm) with zero scholarship players behind him. If he goes down, then what? We play the 2nd hardest schedule in football with 2 walk-ons?

Stop thinking SF is Jesus for a minute. He blew this and if it goes south, he's to blame. He should have had all of these guys in full contact in spring to at least to see how they do in live contact. I'd have no problem with AM then. But to elevate him as the first-ever starting freshman QB without even so much as getting tackled, not once, is flat out inexcusable. Times have changed, but if you want to tell me that we should start picking QBs because of how well they throw in warm-up then you and I will have to agree to disagree.

FYI, I live in Fresno about 1/2 mile from AM's house. I know how good he is. What you all don't know is California football is soft. It's basketball on grass. Most players here aren't B1G tough. For the most part, physically they fit in perfectly with the Pac 12 and that style of football. This kid has no idea of what's about to happen when a B1G defense lights him up. And neither does SF.

I hope he does well. I think he'll be similar to T-Mart was as a frosh -- faster than everyone else on the field. But if you want a champion back at NU, then you better have a QB who can take a pounding and lead his team in the teeth of championship defenses (Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn State). And yet we have a starting QB who's never been tackled. Go figure.

I lived in the valley, yes cali plays soft regarding the run game, but has some of the best passing games.
In the UA game, AM played against the best,he looked good there, a small window, but arguably almost as good as he will see any given Saturday.
I just dont see another option here, and placing contact so high is just the conundrum coaches today have to deal with.
I dont think AM is your typical cali qb, nor did I think TG was either.
I trust what SF is doing, this isnt his first qb, but we do have AB, and he's no slouch.
Lets hope AM stays healthy, as he didnt look gun shy in that UA game.

 

[SUHnami]

Joe Burrow looks like a missed opportunity right now, but at the time, I agreed with it. NU had 3 capable guys with another in the wings (Vedral -- I played with his dad). Hindsight is 20/20.

My theory is SF is playing for next year and that's smart. Can't blame him for that. NU is absolutely loaded next season with a soft schedule. Anything less than B10 West champs will be a disappointment. But it just sits wrong with me that he handed the keys to a new Ferrari to a teenager who hasn't even learned to drive yet, other than on PlayStation and backing the car out of the garage a couple of times. It sure would be nice if he was road tested.

He did the same thing at UCF. He gave the keys to a new Ferrari to Milton a True Frosh and look where it landed him? Coach of the year and an unbeaten season.

 

[husker fan in sac]

I have no problem with SF. He's the best new coach in the business right now. His schemes are going to be copied for a long time. And IMO, AM is easily the type of QB he wants. My point is this. SF created a mess and put the whole team/season in jeopardy with how he handled this. We now have a starting QB (who's never taken a hit on his surgically repaired arm) with zero scholarship players behind him. If he goes down, then what? We play the 2nd hardest schedule in football with 2 walk-ons?

Stop thinking SF is Jesus for a minute. He blew this and if it goes south, he's to blame. He should have had all of these guys in full contact in spring to at least to see how they do in live contact. I'd have no problem with AM then. But to elevate him as the first-ever starting freshman QB without even so much as getting tackled, not once, is flat out inexcusable. Times have changed, but if you want to tell me that we should start picking QBs because of how well they throw in warm-up then you and I will have to agree to disagree.

FYI, I live in Fresno about 1/2 mile from AM's house. I know how good he is. What you all don't know is California football is soft. It's basketball on grass. Most players here aren't B1G tough. For the most part, physically they fit in perfectly with the Pac 12 and that style of football. This kid has no idea of what's about to happen when a B1G defense lights him up. And neither does SF.

I hope he does well. I think he'll be similar to T-Mart was as a frosh -- faster than everyone else on the field. But if you want a championship back at NU, then you better have a QB who can take a pounding and lead his team in the teeth of championship defenses (Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Iowa, Wisconsin, Penn State). And yet we have a starting QB who's never been tackled. Go figure.

Lived in NorCal for 35 years playing and watching high school football. Moved to Houston and can say that a good amount of the NorCal teams would do more than ok with teams here in houston. Completely disagree with the statement that California football is soft.
As far as TG, I’m disappointed and think he had a chance to play and maybe succeed. However this is not what he ran or what he excels in. I wish and hope for nothing but the best in his future endeavors. He was put behind the 8 ball with Riley leaving and fought to win the starting job under Frost. GBR!

 

[bshirt]

My point is he should have NEVER named a starting QB without first seeing them live in multiple situations. Let's not sugarcoat this just because it's SF. This is as bad as some of Mike Riley's moves. Probably worse.

Oh boy....our HC should never list any starter until they've played several "live in multiple situations"????

You can't possibly be serious.

 

[GaPnt]

He either drinks too much or he is dumb as a post. Take your pick.

 

[aztonick]

Venting is fine, but it is time for everyone to move on with life. A skinny kid that drops 3 snaps in one scrimmage alone was never going to have a big impact on this program.

Martinez was always going to b ed the presrnt and foture.

We will beat Akron soundly.

 

[Chris]

Stop thinking SF is Jesus for a minute. He blew this and if it goes south, he's to blame.

I don't think that. Never said he is.

Blew what? Season hasn't played a game yet. If the season doesn't go south did he not "blow it" ? At that point will you grudgingly say "he got lucky"? He hasn't "blown anything yet.

I will say- I see more maturity and heart out of Martinez than most any 18 year old I've seen in a long while. And since Frost's staff took over, I'm seeing more taking responsibility, maturity and fire out of all the players than we've seen in years.

Sorry John, and with all respect to your Husker past c. 1990 - I think you're sounding a bit like "back in my day we all had to walk three miles to school barefoot on broken glass in three feet of snow eating cold gravel... And I'm older than you... so you were lucky to have cold gravel... and I had to walk 12 miles.... and let the teacher beat me for the privilege.

You might not like what the facts and yes, sometimes irrational fear of concussions is doing to the game, I have much to gripe about there too- but the game is what it now is... that's not Frost's fault.

 

[Blackshirt96]

The first game that Cardale Jones started for Ohio State was in the B10 Championship game. The 2nd was against Alabama and the 3rd was for the national title. He started that year 3rd on the depth chart.

Your chance is always a play away, so I don't understand giving up.

However, best of luck to him and I hope he finds whatever it is he's looking for somewhere else. I think he's in for a rude awakening, but such is life.

The difference is there was a path to starting for Cardale. He wasn't beat out by a guy with more years of eligibility.

 

[Blackshirt96]

He's also not a QB. Not yet, anyways.

He played QB last year in high school. He is ranked as a Ath, but htat doesn't mean he is not a QB.

McCaffrey, 6-foot-2 and 183 pounds, threw for 878 yards and rushed for 548 last year at Valor Christian High School in Highlands Ranch

 

[Chris]

And one last nail in the no contact discussion:

The NFL went to minimal contact five years ago... for example

New Rule at N.F.L.’s Camps: No Tackling. It’s Just Practice.

And there's been a drumbeat to move college closer to that ever since:

Gilmore: College football should follow NFL's lead on contact in practice


NCAA recommends ending two-a-day football practices and reducing tackling

LSU last year and this, Bama, many others have put no-contact jerseys on the QB's the last couple of years. It's not Frost.

You can be mad at that trend --- are teams throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Maybe--- time will tell.

 

[Doc Fumble]

My point is this. SF created a mess and put the whole team/season in jeopardy with how he handled this. We now have a starting QB (who's never taken a hit on his surgically repaired arm) with zero scholarship players behind him. If he goes down, then what? We play the 2nd hardest schedule in football with 2 walk-ons?

I'm trying hard to figure out your logic here. Frost "created a mess" and "put the season in jeopardy" because he didn't have his QBs take a hit. But if he had - and God forbid, one of them got injured and was out for the season - we'd be in the exact same situation you are blasting now.

The loss of one of our scholarship QBs was the very reason Frost played it cautious.

 

[Cdog923]

Who played qb last week?
Luke McCaffrey's High School Football Stats

I told my wife what the temperature was going to be today; doesn't make me a weatherman.

I'd bet even money he doesn't end up as a QB in college. Great athlete, raw skillset at the QB position.

 

[Cdog923]

Then again, Snodgrass is.

#ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmm

 

[Cdog923]

Not advocating that at all. I'm just irked that he handed the keys to an 18-year-old kid who hasn't even been tackled in college. No doubt he was the future. But make the kid earn it. This is football not touch football.

...as opposed to a 19 year old kid who hasn't even been tackled in college?

 

[aztonick]

I told my wife what the temperature was going to be today; doesn't make me a weatherman.

I'd bet even money he doesn't end up as a QB in college. Great athlete, raw skillset at the QB position.

He is an FBS QB. I have no concern about that anymore after watching his first game last weekend.

 

[charlie]

FYI, I live in Fresno about 1/2 mile from AM's house. I know how good he is. What you all don't know is California football is soft. It's basketball on grass. Most players here aren't B1G tough. For the most part, physically they fit in perfectly with the Pac 12 and that style of football. This kid has no idea of what's about to happen when a B1G defense lights him up. And neither does SF.

Wasn't Gebbia a CA kid?

BTW, johnmcmillen has always been one of our glass half full kind of guys. It's good for us, keeps us on our toes.