Fire Mike Riley.

HuskerVotary;n153319 said:
Sadly, it's almost predictable anymore. The heat in Husker Fan's head ramps up over time until his hair spontaneously combusts, usually about every three or four years.

By that time, most defeats are to overstuffed sacks of potatoes, those that aren't are by inconceivable margins, the head coach sucks, the staff sucks, the players suck and it's patently obvious to everyone what needs to happen: re-boot, start all over again, and recycle some three- or four-year-old arguments (albeit with different names).

Don't forget to wash your hair.

I think your post here misses the point Votary.

To make sure we all know the baseline complaint: Last Saturday, Nebraska lost, at home, to a directional Illinois school from the MAC conference.

In the process of losing that game...

the offense stunk​
there was a play where Nebraska couldn't get two yards on a 3rd and 2
the OL was utterly embarrassed and beaten physically by a defensive front that gave away almost 45 pounds per man
they looked like they were merely going through the motions
there was no fire, no sense of urgency, no emotion, nothing
our QB threw two pick sixes
​
Defensively, they played fairly well. They gave up one big play which later led to a touchdown.​


When we, as Nebraska fans, see a game being played as poorly as what we saw last Saturday...then yeah, we're going to bring the heat to those coaches. All of these coaches are extremely well paid and we're not getting a good return on this investment.
 
Husker94;n153341 said:
I think your post here misses the point Votary.

To make sure we all know the baseline complaint: Last Saturday, Nebraska lost, at home, to a directional Illinois school from the MAC conference.

You're obsessed with downplaying and disregarding NIU. Tell me, Jen. Between NU and NIU, which one has played in a BCS bowl game? Which team has had the most recent 5 consecutive 11+ win seasons? You're applying 20th century thinking to 21st century situations.

No one is arguing that the Huskers are playing great football, but using NIU as your frame of reference in post after post after post isn't making your point.
 
Husker21stb;n153381 said:
You're obsessed with downplaying and disregarding NIU. Tell me, Jen. Between NU and NIU, which one has played in a BCS bowl game? Which team has had the most recent 5 consecutive 11+ win seasons? You're applying 20th century thinking to 21st century situations.

No one is arguing that the Huskers are playing great football, but using NIU as your frame of reference in post after post after post isn't making your point.

And you apparently are happy with mediocrity. To say that its ok to lose to NIU is ridiculous. NO ONE should ever say that we lost to a MAC team but they are have been pretty good so its ok. Being a good MAC team and being a good Power 5 team are totally different. To say that the days of NU being consistently a top team are gone is a bunch of bull. There is no reason NU cant return to that and to think otherwise is to be ok with mediocrity. There is absolutely no reason that NU can not be a team that is consistently considered to be a conference champ and be in the talk of being in the playoffs. NONE.
 
Huskergod84;n153382 said:
And you apparently are happy with mediocrity. To say that its ok to lose to NIU is ridiculous. NO ONE should ever say that we lost to a MAC team but they are have been pretty good so its ok. Being a good MAC team and being a good Power 5 team are totally different. To say that the days of NU being consistently a top team are gone is a bunch of bull. There is no reason NU cant return to that and to think otherwise is to be ok with mediocrity. There is absolutely no reason that NU can not be a team that is consistently considered to be a conference champ and be in the talk of being in the playoffs. NONE.

I re-read Husker21stb's post several times and I don't see where he said any of this. NO ONE is happy we lost to a MAC team. I agree, saying the days of NU being consistently a top team are gone is crap. Get the right coach and philosophy, and it will happen. That starts with the Chancellor and President, then the AD. They made a good start getting it back with ADSE being gone. Everyone on this board wants the same thing. I personally don't like the idea of starting over AGAIN, but, if this season tanks as bad as I have a feeling it will, it is time. By the way, I predicted 10-2. Just think, I still have a chance of being right, oh never mind, no I don't.
 
kfr1631;n153390 said:
I re-read Husker21stb's post several times and I don't see where he said any of this. NO ONE is happy we lost to a MAC team. I agree, saying the days of NU being consistently a top team are gone is crap. Get the right coach and philosophy, and it will happen. That starts with the Chancellor and President, then the AD. They made a good start getting it back with ADSE being gone. Everyone on this board wants the same thing. I personally don't like the idea of starting over AGAIN, but, if this season tanks as bad as I have a feeling it will, it is time. By the way, I predicted 10-2. Just think, I still have a chance of being right, oh never mind, no I don't.[/QUOTE]

Yes you do. It's not likely, but this season can turn around. We will soon see if this staff has what it takes to do it.

As to the threads title, it targets the head coach because, well, he's the head coach. He is the single most important member of the staff. But in its entirety the assistant coaches are number one in my book. I would rather have an average head coach and an outstanding group of assistant coaches, than an outstanding head coach, and average assistant coaches EVERY TIME. This is the primary objective of any head coach, CEO, or politician imo. Surround yourself with people who can do what you cannot.......and them let them do it.

I have always felt that there are three coordinators on a staff.......Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator and coach coordinator (ie the head coach). The latter is the most important. If HCMR fails, it will be because he stumbled putting together his staff imo. He still has time to put it right, but the hourglass is running down. Do right by us Coach and give us the product we want.
 
OhioHusker;n153338 said:
Either a coach is about to be fired or you're smoking pot

Hmmm...I think I was a bit too subtle. My immediately preceding post had to do with "hair on fire". I took a gentle poke at you. Get it?
 
HuskerVotary;n153319 said:
Sadly, it's almost predictable anymore. The heat in Husker Fan's head ramps up over time until his hair spontaneously combusts, usually about every three or four years.

By that time, most defeats are to overstuffed sacks of potatoes, those that aren't are by inconceivable margins, the head coach sucks, the staff sucks, the players suck and it's patently obvious to everyone what needs to happen: re-boot, start all over again, and recycle some three- or four-year-old arguments (albeit with different names).

Don't forget to wash your hair.
Husker94;n153341 said:
I think your post here misses the point Votary.

To make sure we all know the baseline complaint: Last Saturday, Nebraska lost, at home, to a directional Illinois school from the MAC conference.

In the process of losing that game...

the offense stunk​
there was a play where Nebraska couldn't get two yards on a 3rd and 2
the OL was utterly embarrassed and beaten physically by a defensive front that gave away almost 45 pounds per man
they looked like they were merely going through the motions
there was no fire, no sense of urgency, no emotion, nothing
our QB threw two pick sixes
​
Defensively, they played fairly well. They gave up one big play which later led to a touchdown.​




When we, as Nebraska fans, see a game being played as poorly as what we saw last Saturday...then yeah, we're going to bring the heat to those coaches. All of these coaches are extremely well paid and we're not getting a good return on this investment.


How could I possibly misunderstand your point-of-view? You've stated it so many, many times. I fully grasp that "Directional School" is your term of the week (seems like a silly distinction, but whatevs), and that you watched the same game I did.

I get it.

I think YOU miss the point. Your hair was on fire a few years ago, when you decided you were done with Pelini, and at one point you said that "anyone" would be better than him. I'll wager that a few years prior to that, your hair was on fire to get rid of Callahan. And a few years prior to that? Hair-fire, onaccounta Solich.

Now your hair is on fire again.

I simply made an observation. My post wasn't an indictment of you personally (altho' you're a dang fine example of what I was commenting on), or even an indictment of Nebraska Fan generally.

All I said was that we do this little hand-wringing exercise cyclically. This is the point in the cycle where "everything sucks!", and "everybody's gotta go!", and we'll resume the same arguments we've had for 15 years, with different folks taking different positions depending on mood, angle-of-attack, ego-investment and fatigue level, among other things.

It's just what happens. About every three or four years.
 
HuskerVotary;n153397 said:
How could I possibly misunderstand your point-of-view? You've stated it so many, many times. I fully grasp that "Directional School" is your term of the week (seems like a silly distinction, but whatevs), and that you watched the same game I did.

I get it.

I think YOU miss the point. Your hair was on fire a few years ago, when you decided you were done with Pelini, and at one point you said that "anyone" would be better than him. I'll wager that a few years prior to that, your hair was on fire to get rid of Callahan. And a few years prior to that? Hair-fire, onaccounta Solich.

Now your hair is on fire again.

I simply made an observation. My post wasn't an indictment of you personally (altho' you're a dang fine example of what I was commenting on), or even an indictment of Nebraska Fan generally.

All I said was that we do this little hand-wringing exercise cyclically. This is the point in the cycle where "everything sucks!", and "everybody's gotta go!", and we'll resume the same arguments we've had for 15 years, with different folks taking different positions depending on mood, angle-of-attack, ego-investment and fatigue level, among other things.

It's just what happens. About every three or four years.

Riley made one giant and needed change. Would be make another? Either his pro game blows or the guys he has coaching it blow, or both. If he were to get rid of the OSU's dead weight I would consider retracting my claws, but he won't. He has what appear to be some young and talented coaches, but the guys at the top are sinking the ship.

So he has to go.

Ultimately, Harvey Perlman was the problem. He's the type of academic that hates that sports are viewed as more important than academics and SE was his kind of guy. Until you wipe away anything he had his snobby hands in, the revamp will not be complete.
 
I'll say this....people wanted more chatter on the board and now they are getting it. lol

I see this resent termination as that warning shot over the bow of Riley's leaky ship.

I wanna see what Riley has in store for his team. Like to see if he can call plays better than Flounder.

Alais, we will have to wait a little longer it appears.
 
HuskerVotary;n153397 said:
How could I possibly misunderstand your point-of-view? You've stated it so many, many times. I fully grasp that "Directional School" is your term of the week (seems like a silly distinction, but whatevs), and that you watched the same game I did.

I get it.

I think YOU miss the point. Your hair was on fire a few years ago, when you decided you were done with Pelini, and at one point you said that "anyone" would be better than him. I'll wager that a few years prior to that, your hair was on fire to get rid of Callahan. And a few years prior to that? Hair-fire, onaccounta Solich.

Now your hair is on fire again.

I simply made an observation. My post wasn't an indictment of you personally (altho' you're a dang fine example of what I was commenting on), or even an indictment of Nebraska Fan generally.

All I said was that we do this little hand-wringing exercise cyclically. This is the point in the cycle where "everything sucks!", and "everybody's gotta go!", and we'll resume the same arguments we've had for 15 years, with different folks taking different positions depending on mood, angle-of-attack, ego-investment and fatigue level, among other things.

It's just what happens. About every three or four years.

:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
 
I personally love coach Riley. At least until September :) . He is pretty awesome in most facets except the bottom line one. The disappointing part to me is still his original staff picks. I like our defensive staff currently, and he got rid of Bruce Reed. Still, it looks like he may need to change 2 offensive assistants if he makes it that long. Overhauling almost your whole staff in 3 years is not a good look. It means you did a bad job identifying your assistants out of the gate. That will most likely be his undoing barring a miraculous turnaround.
 
Husker21stb;n153381 said:
You're obsessed with downplaying and disregarding NIU. Tell me, Jen. Between NU and NIU, which one has played in a BCS bowl game? Which team has had the most recent 5 consecutive 11+ win seasons? You're applying 20th century thinking to 21st century situations.

No one is arguing that the Huskers are playing great football, but using NIU as your frame of reference in post after post after post isn't making your point.

Actually it does...

Directional Illinois is in the MAC conference. Teams from the MAC recruit the players who weren't good enough to receive P5 offers. Nebraska should beat any MAC school by 50+ points 99 out of 100 times.

And the fact we have some of our own fans are minimizing and down-playing this loss to a directional school is just further proof of how far some of our fans standards have fallen.
 


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