Episode IX

Not me - the biggest problem I had with it was how intentionally subverted and destroyed the old canon as if it didn't matter.
Luke's role was mostly nonsense and Hamill knew it.

Skywalker became a true, mythic hero in Return of the Jedi. When he faced off against Palpatine, he made a choice - refute his Father's weakness and overcome it, become greater than that, sacrifice himself for all mankind by not giving in to the Dark Side. That was the rightful end to the character's story arc.

Then fans wait for twenty years to see him again and what do we get? A tired old man who did nothing with the legacy he earned. Grumpy, secluded, embittered... a hermit who considered murdering a young Kylo and telling Rey that none of that mattered and get off my lawn.

It was a terrible return and role for the character. One that insulted 30 years of legacy.

Star Wars fans writ large didn't go to the movie to be told "none of what you know and love matters" Not in one movie that was one other movie away from completely the last trilogy.

Boyega, Ridley, Hamill and many others directly involved know that the movie was a major mistake in the canon. So much so, that the final movie took as its considered mission, making sure that it became the "antidote" to the poison that it was".

Geez, I hate to go Starwars freak here, but I totally disagree that it subverted anything. Luke retreating to seclusion is a perfect corollary to both Yoda and Obi-wan. They all had failed in what they hoped could be, only to make things worse so they decided to disappear. Luke no longer had to represent hope after episode 7 because it had been reborn with Rey. His fight scene on Crait with Kylo Ren was also perfectly consistent with Obi Wan allowing Vader to kill him.

To me, the biggest problem with the entire storyline is with the expanded universe and how the fanboys felt how that all needed to be tied together in the movies. Ironically, the also hate the Solo movie even though it tied Darth Mauls extended storyline in as perfect fan service.

I thought that chapter 9 was the weakest film of the whole series personally. Bringing palpatine back as the ultimate bad guy did a disservice to the entire storyline when they had an opportunity to invoke the Plagieus character, but they opted to rehash the guy who Vader overcame. In the end, nobody brought balance back to the force and now we have no idea what that even means. Literally every backstory they provided in the previous 8 movies amounted to nothing, and the unaddressed backstories went unaddressed as usual. No twists, no shocking developments, no "i am your father" moments. It's almost like the took the last 2 pages of a novel and spread it out when they could have made it the last 200 pages.
 
Not me - the biggest problem I had with it was how intentionally subverted and destroyed the old canon as if it didn't matter.
Luke's role was mostly nonsense and Hamill knew it.

Skywalker became a true, mythic hero in Return of the Jedi. When he faced off against Palpatine, he made a choice - refute his Father's weakness and overcome it, become greater than that, sacrifice himself for all mankind by not giving in to the Dark Side. That was the rightful end to the character's story arc.

Then fans wait for twenty years to see him again and what do we get? A tired old man who did nothing with the legacy he earned. Grumpy, secluded, embittered... a hermit who considered murdering a young Kylo and telling Rey that none of that mattered and get off my lawn.

It was a terrible return and role for the character. One that insulted 30 years of legacy.

Star Wars fans writ large didn't go to the movie to be told "none of what you know and love matters" Not in one movie that was one other movie away from completely the last trilogy.

Boyega, Ridley, Hamill and many others directly involved know that the movie was a major mistake in the canon. So much so, that the final movie took as its considered mission, making sure that it became the "antidote" to the poison that it was".

The part in red...So in actuality, your anger is on George Lucas for not giving us a proper trilogy to conclude Luke's epic journey. You know a trilogy where Mark Hammill would still have been young enough, and the right age chronologically, to show that character's progression from galaxy wide hero to someone who truly experiences failure really for the first time, tries to make it right, and makes things worse in the process, resulting in him becoming a cynical old man.

The part in blue...Can you provide examples? I have an idea what you're saying, but I want to read it from you to be sure.

The part in purple...There is no such thing as a "mistake in canon." There may be things a person doesn't like, but there are no mistakes. And later canon contradicting earlier canon isn't a mistake either. I look at such instances this way: You have a story. Let 10 people tell that story and you likely could get 10 different versions with just some basic commonalities between all versions. It is extremely unlikely that all 10 people tell the story the exact same way. I personally loved The Last Jedi because Rian Johnson was bold enough to take the story to a place most fans did not expect.

And, as I have mentioned in previous posts, therein lies the rub...A lot of Star Wars fans claim they want stories with different characters, and unexpected events/things/concepts they've not considered before. But when they get them..

* Rey (based on The Force Awakens) being a nobody with immense but untrained power with the Force

* Finn being a black stormtrooper

* Holdo's hyperspace jump through another ship

* Ships actually running out of fuel

* Using bombers in space (?conveniently? forgetting that in Empire Strikes Back there was a shot of Tie Fighters dropping bombs on asteroids while trying to flush the Millenium Falcon out of hiding)

...they literally lose their minds and tear the movie apart all over social media and internet forums.
 
Geez, I hate to go Starwars freak here, but I totally disagree that it subverted anything. Luke retreating to seclusion is a perfect corollary to both Yoda and Obi-wan. They all had failed in what they hoped could be, only to make things worse so they decided to disappear. Luke no longer had to represent hope after episode 7 because it had been reborn with Rey. His fight scene on Crait with Kylo Ren was also perfectly consistent with Obi Wan allowing Vader to kill him.

To me, the biggest problem with the entire storyline is with the expanded universe and how the fanboys felt how that all needed to be tied together in the movies. Ironically, the also hate the Solo movie even though it tied Darth Mauls extended storyline in as perfect fan service.

I thought that chapter 9 was the weakest film of the whole series personally. Bringing palpatine back as the ultimate bad guy did a disservice to the entire storyline when they had an opportunity to invoke the Plagieus character, but they opted to rehash the guy who Vader overcame. In the end, nobody brought balance back to the force and now we have no idea what that even means. Literally every backstory they provided in the previous 8 movies amounted to nothing, and the unaddressed backstories went unaddressed as usual. No twists, no shocking developments, no "i am your father" moments. It's almost like the took the last 2 pages of a novel and spread it out when they could have made it the last 200 pages.

The part in green and orange...I concur 100%. Well said.

The part in red...I disagree. I thought Episode IX was the strongest of the entire trilogy and I love that the decision to make Rey a Plapatine. I thought it was brilliant. It was brilliant because in previous Star Wars lore/canon, you have the Jedi who are "good" and Sith who are "evil". And in this fan's view, that's incredibly lazy writing.

As we all know, things in life are rarely that simple. So I loved Rey's becoming a Gray Jedi at the end of Rise Of Skywalker; one who balances the light and the dark within herself. I loved Rey's rejection of the evil and corruption of her grandpa, but also not unwilling to attack and or make emotional connection with people. To me, Rey is the most realistic, and authentic, version of what someone with her powers and abilities should be.

The part in purple...If it hadn't been theorized on social media 1,000x over, the revelation of Rey being a Palpatine could have been that type of moment.

And, had @Doc Holiday not spoiled Han Solo's death in The Force Awakens, that could have been that type of moment.
 
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I think George Lucas' "vision" that we were all sold on was a bunch of malarkey. If we look at the entire story arc, I can't believe this is what he had in mind. Of all of the characters over the course of 9 movies, Rey is literally the only one that ended up being an important figure who wasn't in the original trilogy. You could actually make the case that the prequel trilogy only gave us the background into where the stormtroopers came from. We really didnt learn anything of consequence about Vader's background that hadn't already been revealed. Yoda was exactly who we thought he was, and the same goes for Obi-wan. The background into Sidious is quite honestly meaningless in general and his reference to Plageius was nothing more than a throw-away tease.

You could probably just watch episode 1, 5,6, and 9 and would still have a good grasp on the whole thing.
 
I think George Lucas' "vision" that we were all sold on was a bunch of malarkey. If we look at the entire story arc, I can't believe this is what he had in mind. Of all of the characters over the course of 9 movies, Rey is literally the only one that ended up being an important figure who wasn't in the original trilogy. You could actually make the case that the prequel trilogy only gave us the background into where the stormtroopers came from. We really didnt learn anything of consequence about Vader's background that hadn't already been revealed. Yoda was exactly who we thought he was, and the same goes for Obi-wan. The background into Sidious is quite honestly meaningless in general and his reference to Plageius was nothing more than a throw-away tease.

You could probably just watch episode 1, 5,6, and 9 and would still have a good grasp on the whole thing.

You could literally say the say thing about the MCU. If you watch:

The Avengers
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Avengers: Age Of Ultron
Captain America: Civil War
Infinity War

...you can piece together enough to know what is happening in Endgame.

I think you are wrong regarding Rey being the only character to "mean anything." Without all the other characters, she never gets off Jakku. Without the story unfolding how it did, Rey would be nothing.

It is as Tolkien says in "Return of the King", people come and go in the telling of a tale. And where a story begins, is under no obligation to end in a way the reader/viewer desires.