Bruce Read
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Well, it shows that he doesn't tolerate total and obvious failures on his staff, at least. He's got Callahan beat there!
Will he hire another dedicated special teams coach, or fill the vacancy with a coach that splits his time between special teams and some other assistant role?
Will he hire another dedicated special teams coach, or fill the vacancy with a coach that splits his time between special teams and some other assistant role?
RED ED;94503 said:
Yes, it does. This did not surprise me at all. Though I am encouraged that it didn't take till the bowl game to do it. (Had he pulled the plug on the DL coach earlier last year, we probably would have had a lot more seasoned DL this season, but that is water under the bridge.). I predict that next year, if we crap our pants in big games again on defense, Banker will be the next to go. HCMR is a really nice guy, but he isn't really a nice guy. I mean that in the best sense of the phrase...
As already said.....there you have it......this should help you see these guys know just what is at stake and where they are!
Doc.
Doc.
This speaks very well of Coach Riley, indeed.
Letting Hank Hughes go last year was relatively easy; he had no direct ties to Riley, but Bruce Read has been with him for a very long time, so this couldn't have been easy on a personal level.
There are still problems with his other two coordinators, one another old friend and longtime colleague, the other a protégé. What will we see relative to these two?
I wouldn't think any plugs would be pulled before the Bowl, but NU cannot stand pat with what they've shown schematically and in-game through the last 5 games in 2016. It may be handled "in-house", with short leashes attached to both, but action from the Head Coach definitely must be taken.
My hope is that Read's scalp won't be characterized or perceived as an adequate addressing of all that is wrong with the program from a coaching standpoint. It isn't anywhere near enough.
Riley gives me some hope, though. We'll have to see.
Letting Hank Hughes go last year was relatively easy; he had no direct ties to Riley, but Bruce Read has been with him for a very long time, so this couldn't have been easy on a personal level.
There are still problems with his other two coordinators, one another old friend and longtime colleague, the other a protégé. What will we see relative to these two?
I wouldn't think any plugs would be pulled before the Bowl, but NU cannot stand pat with what they've shown schematically and in-game through the last 5 games in 2016. It may be handled "in-house", with short leashes attached to both, but action from the Head Coach definitely must be taken.
My hope is that Read's scalp won't be characterized or perceived as an adequate addressing of all that is wrong with the program from a coaching standpoint. It isn't anywhere near enough.
Riley gives me some hope, though. We'll have to see.
Honestly Riley has been around for too long to even think that just giving the S.Teams coach the boot is going to cure all our problems so you need not worry about that....he also knows there is still a part of the team that has loyalty to Pelini but there are far fewer of them left now and by this time next year the ones that decided to stay will be gone....no matter if they transfer out over the winter or right after spring ball the few that do stick around will graduate and be gone. I hate to keep beating a dead horse here but guys are still saying that there is a buy in problem between the old and the new.....and that was never more evident than after Wisconsin....and mercifully came to a fitting end on Black Friday in Iowa.....it just sucked that those handful of guys cost their teammates a 10 or 11 win season not that it would have done us any good anyway but it would have said alot to the National perception of the Huskers....that's reflected in today's polls.....can you imagine how bad the team would have got on the hand full of Pelini guys who just gave up had Minnesota beat Wisconsin......they should be very thankful for Wisconsin cause I know what goes on behind closed doors and it would have been bad......there is already a movement in the team to limit the damage those Pelini guys can do in Bowl Practices and for next season within the team so it could have gotten U G L Y
I hate to say it already but here is to next season and that starts with the Bowl Game.
Doc.
I hate to say it already but here is to next season and that starts with the Bowl Game.
Doc.
Doc, I love your posts and respect your opinions; you know the game from the inner side of the facemask, just as I do. I went through not one but two coaching changes in college. I never saw a player willing to sabotage his team or his own career over it, and I find it all but impossible to believe that this is or ever was the case at NU. I tend to believe that's a scapegoat explanation that's far too easy to buy without reading the ingredients or nutritional value labeling, due to the sheer frustration of the people flailing about for answers.
I'm sorry, but I simply do not believe it - at all - regardless of any alleged mutterings of teens and tweens, or of fans searching for easy answers. It may well be being said, but that does not make it so, and projecting this reasoning onto the situation as opposed to seeking real solutions or taking time for personal introspection could well make those doing the projecting more toxic to the cause than those at whom they're pointing fingers.
I'm sorry, but I simply do not believe it - at all - regardless of any alleged mutterings of teens and tweens, or of fans searching for easy answers. It may well be being said, but that does not make it so, and projecting this reasoning onto the situation as opposed to seeking real solutions or taking time for personal introspection could well make those doing the projecting more toxic to the cause than those at whom they're pointing fingers.
Solly;94509 said:
I'm impressed and hopeful with Riley's quick actions. I take no joy in Bruce Read being out of a job as he might be a hell of a person, but the result on the field was unacceptable.
Everyone keeps saying that after next year all the Pelini recruited players will be gone but that is not even close to the truth. In all honesty only this years freshmen are truly Riley recruits. Some are from the year before but alot of those guys were originally recruited by Pelini and came even after he was fired. So it will take 3 more years for all the Riley only recruits to be in the system. And honestly its been two years if those kids havent bought in by now they arent going to. And as far as this years seniors giving up and all that I call BS. I never saw Tommy or Terrell or Westy EVER give up. Kevin Maurice NEVER gave up. Utter NEVER gave up. If your going to say players gave up then please name them. Tell me which players gave up.
Solly;94514 said:
Solly, it doesn't have to be quitting. There is a damn fine line between going balls out and not. I learned in college wrestling that when you lose the will to contest every point, all the time, your are broken. It's the difference between winning a tight match and getting your ass handed to you. All the talent in the world can't supersede the 5 inches between your ears. Football is no different, with the except that you have teammates to pick you up and cover for you. That works, for a while.
I think some of these guys either lost that edge along the way, or never really had it. The reason is irrelevant, what is relevant is Nebraska needs to get back to a culture of refusing to accept losing. They don't have it now and honestly I think it's only going to come back through team leadership. Riley is not that guy, so we need team guys to step up and lead these guys into a new mindset. I hope that someone is either already on the team or coming soon, because we need it.
Solly;94517 said:
Solly, do you know anything about the Tavita Thompson mentioned in the article as a possible candidate.
Doc Holiday;94511 said:
I like it when teams treat bowl games as a prelude to next season and not just an annoyance to conclude the current season. We all know the games when teams didn't show up since they lost a big game in the last week of the season or lost 4 games in the regular season.
Huskergod84;94520 said:
I can't speak for other others, but for me intensity is often a matter of degree. I don't think ANYONE gave up, but I think many didn't dig as deep as they could have. I've been there on various occasions, and I admit in all honesty, as I look back it was not getting beat that bothers me the most, it was the fact that I didn't give it my all regardless of the circumstances. I think this is the hardest thing for YOUNG people to understand. Effort beats results hands down to the individual involved. It doesn't matter as much to investors, or bystanders, or fans but if you're the one involved, someday it will mean everything.
If you've been reading through these posts you'll notice there is a dichotomy of opinions as to why things happened as they did last Friday. No one questions that we were beat, and beat quite soundly. That leaves three main options.....1) We are inferior or 2) We are equal or superior but didn't try hard enough so we played inferior or 3) the coaching was so abysmal that players didn't have a chance. Everyone is trying to come to terms with why what happened, did happen. It's not a fun time.
You are correct Bo's players will be around awhile longer. The question is, after a greater number of Riley's recruits are brought in, will they see the field. Bo is gone. Mike is here. If they want to see the field they will have to earn it by doing it Coach Riley's way, and by beating out any one who stands in their way. If they can't, or won't do it, who brought them in doesn't really matter.
Tavita no ka oe. He's a stud keeper.
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Change is fine. Thankfully, and regrettably, it's life.
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Change is fine. Thankfully, and regrettably, it's life.
