3-4 or 4-3
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They run a 3-4 now I believe. Maybe they don't give the wr a 15 yard cushion in their scheme. :emmersed:
I prefer a 4-3 but if the 3-4 is attacking then probably be ok. At least want it aggressive and attacking.
One thing you can count on--at every press conference where a school hires a new coach, the coach will tell the crowd he will have an aggressive and attacking defense--just part of the book of cliches every coach uses
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Everybody ran it better than Diaco this year.
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Well, Diaco would have been fine, if it wasn't for "the strain".........
No, I mean everybody...even those not running a 3-4 could arguably have run it better.
My vote.....if course 4-3.....for obvious reasons.....if it ain't broke.....don't fix it....and with a new staff with great credit and renewed sense of purpose they can recruit to it and snag a few fast pass rushing ends and big boys with a huge motor and quick feet ......we will just have to see.
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Sounds like a pipe dream (and by that, I mean a crack pipe)--If BV leaves Clemson, I assume it will be for a HC job-- I can't see any possible way he would take a lateral move to a rebuilding project ( unless he was on the pipe)
Is rumored to be the first choice at Arkansas after Malzahn said no
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Dabo responds to Brent Venables being mentioned as head coaching candidate
Brent is a great defensive mind if he has the talent in place to run his style D as a head Man somewhere.....like a Power 5 gig......I don't have a clue how that would work out.....here lately guys like him that have moved on to HC jobs haven't set the world on fire. I think he has been offered gigs but maybe, wisely turned them down looking for the right time and the right job.....he for sure is not dumb by any means and when he finds that sweet job in a sweet spot I have no doubt he will take it but you can bet it will be a calculated move.
Kind of like but different than Frost coming here to be the Head Coach.....this is the exact right guy in the exact right spot at that exact right time.....all the stars are aligned just right and we have not since they went and found The Bob-Father have we been in just the absolute right spot to need him as badly as we do either so in this one specific case it's a perfect scenario....a true win-win situation.....for the exact right guy....Scott Frost.......see what I mean ?
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Kind of like but different than Frost coming here to be the Head Coach.....this is the exact right guy in the exact right spot at that exact right time.....all the stars are aligned just right and we have not since they went and found The Bob-Father have we been in just the absolute right spot to need him as badly as we do either so in this one specific case it's a perfect scenario....a true win-win situation.....for the exact right guy....Scott Frost.......see what I mean ?
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I wasn't really up-to-snuff when the talk of the 3-4 came about this year, so I enlisted a few people to "school" me a bit. Here's what I heard:
What we talk about today is mostly multiple defenses in the sense of what type of defense is being used. You will, for example, see four man fronts quite often used by 3-4 guys. What you won't see is three man fronts used by 4-3 guys as often. The reason, I was informed, is because the personal used in the 4-3 doesn't translate very well to the 3-4. Conversely, the personnel used in the 3-4 is more adaptable to 4-3 if it isn't used constantly.
When the 3-4 is used, personnel is much more critical. Also, you need good (at the very least) players everywhere in the 3-4. It is much harder to camouflage inherent weaknesses in this type of defense. You don't t need great players everywhere, BUT you absolutely can't have poor players anywhere.
You also need depth in the 3-4 regardless if you use the "bend-but-don't break" style, or whether you use a more aggressive style. Players get a workout in this style, and open field play is often needed. Conditioning and strength development is critical in the 3-4. not only in the BIG, but everywhere.
You need studs up front and diverse players as backers. You also need strong cover corners......especially when the 3-4 aggressive style is used.
Down linemen need to have superior strength. And backers need to be fast enough to cover (even if it is for a short time), and strong enough to take on the type of back the Big Ten will throw at them eg Taylor and Barkley first come to mind (cripes, I saw a youtube clip of Barkley power cleaning nearly 500lbs....the man is a beast). The down linemen need to, at the very least, stop these type of backs from getting a full head of steam by the time they break the line of scrimmage. The backers need to be fast enough to get into position to lay a shoulder into these guys......arm tackles are going to make them look foolish.
The corners need to be able to cover tight without getting beat one on one....special guys to be sure.
Much has been said about exceptional OLB's and superior nose tackles, while true, these athletes cannot make up for bad players elsewhere.
OK, this is the info I got......but I'm still learning the finer points of this defense, and I'd love to be enlightened (or corrected) even more, so..........
What we talk about today is mostly multiple defenses in the sense of what type of defense is being used. You will, for example, see four man fronts quite often used by 3-4 guys. What you won't see is three man fronts used by 4-3 guys as often. The reason, I was informed, is because the personal used in the 4-3 doesn't translate very well to the 3-4. Conversely, the personnel used in the 3-4 is more adaptable to 4-3 if it isn't used constantly.
When the 3-4 is used, personnel is much more critical. Also, you need good (at the very least) players everywhere in the 3-4. It is much harder to camouflage inherent weaknesses in this type of defense. You don't t need great players everywhere, BUT you absolutely can't have poor players anywhere.
You also need depth in the 3-4 regardless if you use the "bend-but-don't break" style, or whether you use a more aggressive style. Players get a workout in this style, and open field play is often needed. Conditioning and strength development is critical in the 3-4. not only in the BIG, but everywhere.
You need studs up front and diverse players as backers. You also need strong cover corners......especially when the 3-4 aggressive style is used.
Down linemen need to have superior strength. And backers need to be fast enough to cover (even if it is for a short time), and strong enough to take on the type of back the Big Ten will throw at them eg Taylor and Barkley first come to mind (cripes, I saw a youtube clip of Barkley power cleaning nearly 500lbs....the man is a beast). The down linemen need to, at the very least, stop these type of backs from getting a full head of steam by the time they break the line of scrimmage. The backers need to be fast enough to get into position to lay a shoulder into these guys......arm tackles are going to make them look foolish.
The corners need to be able to cover tight without getting beat one on one....special guys to be sure.
Much has been said about exceptional OLB's and superior nose tackles, while true, these athletes cannot make up for bad players elsewhere.
OK, this is the info I got......but I'm still learning the finer points of this defense, and I'd love to be enlightened (or corrected) even more, so..........
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It didn't matter what defense Nebraska was running when it turned out that Diaco was actually Diwacko.
