Nebraska Football Is GONE
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Some people want a average WR coach with no other experience to be headcoach.
What we want is a wide reciever coach who's a barn burner.
If I were writing a story MJ would be the hero.
But.... at this point it would be foolish to settle on an unknown, unproven head coach. The drumming for Joseph is based on emotion and feelings. It would simply be throwing the ball on a roulette wheel thinking fate is on your side.
What was it I heard? The only P5 program since 2017 that hasn't been bowl eligible?
Supposedly we were during the shortened covid season and then, well, just wasn't up for it.
Let's not over react. The impetus for all this was a legitimate clown show in the Eichorst-Riley disaster and then the apparent kegger based governance of past five years.
Let's just take a deep breath, refocus, and take a logical course.
When you have all of the advantages the Nebraska program offers, the leadership has been beyond abysmal. As a fan, you have to shake your head in utter disbelief at how bad it's gone.
And it's not like we were stacked up against a schedule full of powerhouses -- we're in the B1G West for crying out loud! The Big Ten's divisional format will be trashed in another year precisely because Nebraska failed to live up to expectations.
I admit that I have a man-crush on Mickey Joseph and would love to see what he could do if he could put together his own aircraft versus piloting the broken down plane he took control over mid-flight. But I am well aware we need a SERIOUS dose of program-building competence in a head coach. Despite all of our challenges, the one thing our Blueblood status and numerous program advantages give us is the opportunity for Trev Alberts to find us a damn good coach. We need to trust that he'll do it.
Well said. I would be much more in favor of keeping MJ if he was taking over a program on top that he had been around a long time (like Solich). This situation, beyond the fairy tale aspect of it, is a horrible one for a first time head coach.
Steven Pederson destroyed Husker football when he took over as AD and fired Frank Solich.
I agreed with removing Solich - but clearly he that shall not be named mucked up the hiring process AND took a giant dump on a number of PROVEN methods used in the Athletic Dept. When T.O. was AD.......we did some good things to fix the mess.
Then they hire Eichorst - who was worse than Lord Voldemort.........still trying to dig out of that mess.
I really think MJ can do it. He just hasn't shown that he can. Right now, if he got the job, it would appear we were settling because there are a lot of coaches out there that have shown they can.
Since everyone thinks Bama walks on water, I looked at the coaches who were hired after the Bear retired and died. Long story short, you have to kiss a LOT of frogs to get your Prince. Saban would be what some see Ruhle as now; a past program builder, who leaps to NFL and flames out quickly. (This is not a plug for Ruhle, just a comparison)
The Bear's last year was 1982
Coach Year G Record % Post Season
Ray Perkins 83-86 48 32-12 .677 3-0
Bill Curry 87-89 36 26-10 .722 1-2
Gene Stallings 90-96 87 62-25 .713 5-1 92 NC
Mike DuBose 97-00 47 24-23 .511 0-2
Dennis Franchione 01-02 25 17-8 .625 1-0
Mike Price No record, hired and fired without coaching a game
Mike Shula 03-06 49 10-23 .303 0-1
Joe Kines, Interim Coached the bowl game after Shula was fired
Saban was a lucky find for Bama, he came available and they took a chance on him. He came with a lot of baggage and a not-so-good reputation.
I point out that every Blueblood program will have downturns and bad coaches, just the nature of the beast. NU fell prey to an administration that did not support athletics and was more concerned about academics. This is fine if you want to be Northwestern, but the state of Nebraska does not want this. The mess that was left behind in the administration is going to take time to fix, and there will be more frogs to kiss, how many are still to be determined?
The Bear's last year was 1982
Coach Year G Record % Post Season
Ray Perkins 83-86 48 32-12 .677 3-0
Bill Curry 87-89 36 26-10 .722 1-2
Gene Stallings 90-96 87 62-25 .713 5-1 92 NC
Mike DuBose 97-00 47 24-23 .511 0-2
Dennis Franchione 01-02 25 17-8 .625 1-0
Mike Price No record, hired and fired without coaching a game
Mike Shula 03-06 49 10-23 .303 0-1
Joe Kines, Interim Coached the bowl game after Shula was fired
Saban was a lucky find for Bama, he came available and they took a chance on him. He came with a lot of baggage and a not-so-good reputation.
I point out that every Blueblood program will have downturns and bad coaches, just the nature of the beast. NU fell prey to an administration that did not support athletics and was more concerned about academics. This is fine if you want to be Northwestern, but the state of Nebraska does not want this. The mess that was left behind in the administration is going to take time to fix, and there will be more frogs to kiss, how many are still to be determined?
There are no sure things. No matter who is hired, the same ball is thrown.
I honestly believe the Nebraska we knew from 1970-2000 is GONE forever. This program literally went 30 straight years with the fanbase believing we had a shot at a national title to begin every season. After what has happened the last 8 years I would be happy with a program comparable to Washington or Wisconsin. Give me 8 wins and an outside shot at 10 every season and I can live with it. I am so effing tired of investing 12 Saturday's every Fall into a hope and a prayer only to be disappointed all but 3-4 times per year. And if we do find a coach that can give us that kind of consistency, don't fire his ass for an occasional 6-6 season.
And before God84 jumps in and says we had that in Pelini there are two other stipulations.
He can't be an a$$hole and he can't lose every meaningful game by 50.
The level of acceptable a$$holitationalization is directly linked to success. You can act like Saban if you are winning Natties.
And before God84 jumps in and says we had that in Pelini there are two other stipulations.
He can't be an a$$hole and he can't lose every meaningful game by 50.
The level of acceptable a$$holitationalization is directly linked to success. You can act like Saban if you are winning Natties.
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Nebraska football isn’t gone. The support and facilities are still there. The name recognition is still there. We have to stop making bad decisions and start making good ones. It’s not easy, but we are in our own way every step of the way.
We can sit back and haggle over who caused what the last 20 years. The fact is that numerous poor decisions were made and there’s a lot of blame to go around.
We are where we are. You either make the right decision or you don’t. So far, Trev hasn’t been making the right decisions. He needs to start making the right decisions pronto.
We can sit back and haggle over who caused what the last 20 years. The fact is that numerous poor decisions were made and there’s a lot of blame to go around.
We are where we are. You either make the right decision or you don’t. So far, Trev hasn’t been making the right decisions. He needs to start making the right decisions pronto.
True ….maybe.
There are a lot of good coaches out there. True
Do any of them want to leave there current gig. ( remember if they are good the odds of the job being in jeopardy is low ) to start over in a cold climate, to fight the false stereo-type’s of the state with there family , to a small population base that doesn’t have the built in advantages of 30 years ago , and take on a massive rebuild of a job for a fan base that might be …just a little… overzealous …..maybe
THIS!!! ^^^^^
A quickie summary of them:
- I'm in the camp who believes firing Frankie wasn't a bad decision. The decision to hire Callahan was.
- I was a Bo-liever in the beginning but his tenure wasn't a good one by any stretch of the imagination. I find it ironic that some of the same people who blasted the notion we'd even consider Urban Meyer evidently turned a blind eye to all of the Pelini staff shenanighans.
- Hiring Shawn Eichorst was The Worst of ALL of our program decisions over the past twenty years -- and that's all on Harvey Perlman.
- Hiring Mike Riley was the reason why SE was the worst program decision. To this day, that call STILL boggles the mind.
- Hiring Scott Frost. The hire was a no-brainer but for all the talk of wanting to keep it in the family because it meant so much, that pressure clearly was part of his undoing.
- Frost bringing his entire staff to Lincoln. Yeah, let's bring a bunch of small league coaches and bring them all lock-stock-and-barrell to the B1G to compete against a collection of some of the very best coaches in CFB. That's sure to work.
I'll continue to stubbornly defend Trev regarding last year's decision. I would bet the damn farm that the call on Frost came from President Ted Carter and Trev didn't really have much choice but support it.
Hopefully, that fiasco will prevent Carter and Green from interfering this time around. For the record, arm-chair Athletic Directors here could have argued that one of our Coordinators was better positioned to serve as Interim HC than Mickey Joseph. I think Trev made a damn good call on that one.
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