So ok you all......it's time.....the new era is about to...

[innmc]

I still think this is a building year. My concern is that the players don't have older players to learn technique from. It may be kind of hurky jerkey hit or miss for awhile. Frost will have his hands full. He wants to run a lot of screens and I haven't seen a good screen from this team but for a few times in years. They have to learn the plays on offense and defense. I don't expect them to be real crisp out the gate.

 

[Doc Holiday]

This is one thing I will definitely be looking for come fall. We need to stop the stupid penalties at seemingly the most inopportune times. We've been doing it for far too long with absolutely no repercussions to the offending player. Accountability each and every play.

Too true.....I can't even come close to a total of times since the culture change we have done this where as before in the Osborne/Solich years you still saw it happen but very very seldom.....and when it did happen the guy who caused the problem got taken out for that or the next series. I can however remember the Peter Brothers occasionally having an issue controlling their temperament and retaliating against certain Offensive linemen from certain schools, yes some places really did play that way while others not so much.....we all knew this was a big boy sport and stuff was going to go on in those piles of testosterone fueled scrums ......you honestly would not believe some of the racial slurs that got said and eyes that got poked, fingers and legs that got bent the wrong way on purpose, punches that landed in the most delicate of areas......you know where I mean......alot of guys were wearing the plastic & aluminum "cups" the kind you would NEVER wanna drink from and I can still see one particular players on our team who was showing his off at halftime of the Miami Game......it was actually dented and broken from where Warren Sapp had punched it.....but if you remember the 2nd half of that game.....how badly Sapp got beat up ......well my friends that was not by accident I can assure you.
Anyway we were reminded every practice about keeping our composure.....keeping our cool.....not letting the other guy goad us into a stupid penalty that would hurt our team.....and we got the message that when bad things happen not to react and hurt ourselves but to remember it and use it for fuel......so we hit a little harder, sustained a block with athourity as it was called just to the point of pissing off the ref and drawing a flag.
Look we all know each ref is of course different, but we had book on most of them.....their tendency's ......what and how they called things......and all of this was new stuff then......no body was actually keeping track of that stuff back then......except us......now it's common place to know ones conference refs and keep tabs on how they call games....I don't know if it ever gave us a decided edge in a game that otherwise would have been a toss up but it sure as hell never hurt us to know this stuff going into the game either)
What is good is This Staff knows all of the rich history of why and how things were done at NEBRASKA and why it worked....it played out great in the old Big 8 Conference which is alot like today's Big 10 in a lot of ways but different in a lot of ways too.
This is just another reason this staff (because of the diverse mix of cultures) will and should be very successful here at NEBRASKA......these guys get it now all that needs to be done is to get the players to believe and it's all good from then on......provided we don't have to battle through another try at changing who we are......after all even Black Leopards still have spots.....it's just you can't see the spaces between them.......and we all know a Leopard can not change his or her spots......

Go Big Red !

Doc.

 

[Doc Fumble]

we all knew this was a big boy sport and stuff was going to go on in those piles of testosterone fueled scrums ......you honestly would not believe some of the racial slurs that got said and eyes that got poked, fingers and legs that got bent the wrong way on purpose, punches that landed in the most delicate of areas......you know where I mean......alot of guys were wearing the plastic & aluminum "cups" the kind you would NEVER wanna drink from and I can still see one particular player on our team who was showing his off at halftime of the Miami Game......it was actually dented and broken from where Warren Sapp had punched it.....but if you remember the 2nd half of that game.....how badly Sapp got beat up ......well my friends that was not by accident I can assure you.

That's a hell of a good story!!!! Thanks for sharing it.

 

[SUHnami]

This is one thing I will definitely be looking for come fall. We need to stop the stupid penalties at seemingly the most inopportune times. We've been doing it for far too long with absolutely no repercussions to the offending player. Accountability each and every play.

If I see a plethora of false start penalties again like I have the past severl years I think I might have to punch out the Husker fan in front of me at the stadium. Sorry but the offense knows the snao count! Don't move until the ball is snapped.

 

[Doc Holiday]

That's a hell of a good story!!!! Thanks for sharing it.

I remember that particular story of course because of the "cup" but I also remember it because of an old NFL film about some of the early days true tough guys of football and there was a short crew cut little old fat guy who looked the typical east coast enforcer type who played nose guard on Defense for the old Baltimore Colt's and he was telling a story about a particular game where the referee was a real attraction in his own right....after one big dog pile play the ref called a foul and threw the flag while blowing his whistle.....he go so flustered that he spit out the whistle and standing a few feet from the Colts sideline turned to the Coaches and hollered personal foul on #86 or #84 he couldn't be certain and shouted that guy is down in that pile and he's in there given 'em the business !!!! Gesturing upper cut punches the whole time he's hollering.....lol.....I still today think of that and the first thing that pops in my head is the half time locker room at Miami.....and how the entire 2nd half we all gave ol Sapp "the business in there" every chance we got and it still strikes me as funny .....we know the refs saw it.....just like they saw them doing it to us in the first half.....but the only penalty that got called was when Osborne's prediction came true.....and of course the least likely guy to NOT RETALIATE was Peter.....but to his credit he kept his cool and Miami got flagged costing them 15 yards and in effect turning the momentum to our team.....and our guys were just really starting to get warmed up and starting to play.....well the rest as they say is history.....funny thing that Cory Schlesinger should score the winning points in the exact same end zone where Coach Osborne chose to go for the win against Miami instead of the tie that would have given us the title but it would have been a hollow victory ......that was the last Championship game played in n the original "Orange Bowl" and by God I still have a big old frozen chunk of Sandy Sod from that End Zone in our Deep Freezer to this day.....we got back what was taken from our brothers and we did them proud.....you know how much money I have been offered for that pile of Frozen Sandy Sod and Orange and Green Paint......It would only draw jabs of disbelief if I were to tell you but something close you could equate it to.....the complete cost of one Child's modern 4 yr College Education is really REALLY CLOSE.
Some day I am hoping it will find it's way into the trophy case (story and all) at Memorial Stadium.......along side the Orange Bowl and Outright National Championship Trophies.....cause to us players from Nebraska that were in that game......that nasty chunk of frozen sand, grass, dirt and paint meant more than the Natty........well.........almost.

Go Big Red !

Doc.

 

[SUHnami]

I remember that particular story of course because of the "cup" but I also remember it because of an old NFL film about some of the early days true tough guys of football and there was a short crew cut little old fat guy who looked the typical east coast enforcer type who played nose guard on Defense for the old Baltimore Colt's and he was telling a story about a particular game where the referee was a real attraction in his own right....after one big dog pile play the ref called a foul and threw the flag while blowing his whistle.....he go so flustered that he spit out the whistle and standing a few feet from the Colts sideline turned to the Coaches and hollered personal foul on #86 or #84 he couldn't be certain and shouted that guy is down in that pile and he's in there given 'em the business !!!! Gesturing upper cut punches the whole time he's hollering.....lol.....I still today think of that and the first thing that pops in my head is the half time locker room at Miami.....and how the entire 2nd half we all gave ol Sapp "the business in there" every chance we got and it still strikes me as funny .....we know the refs saw it.....just like they saw them doing it to us in the first half.....but the only penalty that got called was when Osborne's prediction came true.....and of course the least likely guy to NOT RETALIATE was Peter.....but to his credit he kept his cool and Miami got flagged costing them 15 yards and in effect turning the momentum to our team.....and our guys were just really starting to get warmed up and starting to play.....well the rest as they say is history.....funny thing that Cory Schlesinger should score the winning points in the exact same end zone where Coach Osborne chose to go for the win against Miami instead of the tie that would have given us the title but it would have been a hollow victory ......that was the last Championship game played in n the original "Orange Bowl" and by God I still have a big old frozen chunk of Sandy Sod from that End Zone in our Deep Freezer to this day.....we got back what was taken from our brothers and we did them proud.....you know how much money I have been offered for that pile of Frozen Sandy Sod and Orange and Green Paint......It would only draw jabs of disbelief if I were to tell you but something close you could equate it to.....the complete cost of one Child's modern 4 yr College Education is really REALLY CLOSE.
Some day I am hoping it will find it's way into the trophy case (story and all) at Memorial Stadium.......along side the Orange Bowl and Outright National Championship Trophies.....cause to us players from Nebraska that were in that game......that nasty chunk of frozen sand, grass, dirt and paint meant more than the Natty........well.........almost.

Go Big Red !

Doc.

And the next play after the 15 yard PF penalty on Miami against Peter my brother Dwayne Harris sacked Costa in the endzone! I met Dwayne and his roommate my Junior year in college I believe it was. Ralph Lott was his roommate and they were just a couple doors down from us. They were characters and Dwayne would give you the shirt off his back.

 

[Doc Holiday]

If I see a plethora of false start penalties again like I have the past severl years I think I might have to punch out the Husker fan in front of me at the stadium. Sorry but the offense knows the snao count! Don't move until the ball is snapped.

I hear what your saying......Everytime they would do that and then to do it a couple times in a row.....I wanted to just rip somebody a new one.....it was totally inexcusable to have that many and not address the problem ......sure previous staff had that laid back "hey chill dude" west coast vibe and attitude of " yes we talked to them about it but it's not them......it's the way we are teaching them.....or we need to coach them up......ok sheesh fine but damnit let's see even a glimmer of progress then......even one or 2 less false starts per game would have been something......and there again is the proof that the way that staff coached was not what would work here......ever.....so help me if I ever hear how we need to get up to speed with the rest of college football and run a more pro pass happy style of football I'm going to puke !......NO MORE DANGED EXPERIMENTS .......OK.......WE KNOW WHAT WORKS HERE AND DADGUMMIT IF IT AINT BROKE.......THEN DONT TRY FIXIN IT....ALL YOUR GONNA WIND UP DOING IS MESSING EVERYTHING UP!
GOD KNOWS WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT AND BEEN THERE.....ITS HIGH TIME WE DO WHAT WERE GOOD AT AND FORCE THE REST OF THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL WORLD TO TRY AND DEAL WITH OR KEEP UP WITH US DANG IT !
DANG THE TORPEDOES.....FULL SPEED AHEAD!...........CRY HAVOC !......AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR !
And all the rest of the harumph, harumph & Ta-Daaaa ! Moment sayings we can think of....my point is simple........man I am glad NEBRASKA is back in the Hands of Run First Nebraskans.
I hope the walk on guys start flocking back.....we need them now more than ever not just for this season but for the future seasons as well.....this folks is how you build a Dynasty.....in a place where it's not supposed to be possible to do.
Oh ye of little faith and foresight.....look ye now and see the foundation laid deep in the rich soil.....and the stone cutters now beginning to chip, hammer and build......the walls of stone with muscle and sinew bound .......that protect and defend .......the Children of the Corn.........

Doc.

 

[Doc Holiday]

And the next play after the 15 yard PF penalty on Miami against Peter my brother Dwayne Harris sacked Costa in the endzone! I met Dwayne and his roommate my Junior year in college I believe it was. Ralph Lott was his roommate and they were just a couple doors down from us. They were characters and Dwayne would give you the shirt off his back.

Very very true is all I will add.

Doc.

 

[Hunchback Johnny]

Doc
I believe the old Baltimore Colt you are referring to was Art Donovan. He was quite the character, on and off the field.

 

[SUHnami]

I hear what your saying......Everytime they would do that and then to do it a couple times in a row.....I wanted to just rip somebody a new one.....it was totally inexcusable to have that many and not address the problem ......sure previous staff had that laid back "hey chill dude" west coast vibe and attitude of " yes we talked to them about it but it's not them......it's the way we are teaching them.....or we need to coach them up......ok sheesh fine but damnit let's see even a glimmer of progress then......even one or 2 less false starts per game would have been something......and there again is the proof that the way that staff coached was not what would work here......ever.....so help me if I ever hear how we need to get up to speed with the rest of college football and run a more pro pass happy style of football I'm going to puke !......NO MORE DANGED EXPERIMENTS .......OK.......WE KNOW WHAT WORKS HERE AND DADGUMMIT IF IT AINT BROKE.......THEN DONT TRY FIXIN IT....ALL YOUR GONNA WIND UP DOING IS MESSING EVERYTHING UP!
GOD KNOWS WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT AND BEEN THERE.....ITS HIGH TIME WE DO WHAT WERE GOOD AT AND FORCE THE REST OF THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL WORLD TO TRY AND DEAL WITH OR KEEP UP WITH US DANG IT !
DANG THE TORPEDOES.....FULL SPEED AHEAD!...........CRY HAVOC !......AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR !
And all the rest of the harumph, harumph & Ta-Daaaa ! Moment sayings we can think of....my point is simple........man I am glad NEBRASKA is back in the Hands of Run First Nebraskans.
I hope the walk on guys start flocking back.....we need them now more than ever not just for this season but for the future seasons as well.....this folks is how you build a Dynasty.....in a place where it's not supposed to be possible to do.
Oh ye of little faith and foresight.....look ye now and see the foundation laid deep in the rich soil.....and the stone cutters now beginning to chip, hammer and build......the walls of stone with muscle and sinew bound .......that protect and defend .......the Children of the Corn.........

Doc.

Doc--I love it. I'm all jacked up now.

Yeah those damn false starts made me want to kick our coaching staff and the same players who kept committing them square between where the lord split ya. Those penalties are drive killers. And at least once last year Gates (I believe it was him) was called twice in a row and 3 times in a game. It could've been the year before. Anyway I remember screaming out loud "Riley pull him out an plant his arse square on the bench. Send a damn message."

 

[Doc Holiday]

Doc
I believe the old Baltimore Colt you are referring to was Art Donovan. He was quite the character, on and off the field.

Yep dat was duh guy......what a wonderful character he was.....he had that east coast Boston Southie almost accent goin on.....he truly was a fantastic story teller.
Thanks for posting his name.....do you ever remember seeing that particular NFL films clip with him telling that story......Honestly I still laugh about the way he tells that story.

Doc.

 

[Hunchback Johnny]

Yep dat was duh guy......what a wonderful character he was.....he had that east coast Boston Southie almost accent goin on.....he truly was a fantastic story teller.
Thanks for posting his name.....do you ever remember seeing that particular NFL films clip with him telling that story......Honestly I still laugh about the way he tells that story.

Doc.

Remember it well. If you get the chance read his book FATSO. FOOTBALL WHEN MEN WERE REALLY MEN.
I don't know or care how much of that book was factual. That was one funny, entertaining story teller.

 

[Red Storm Rising]

This is one thing I will definitely be looking for come fall. We need to stop the stupid penalties at seemingly the most inopportune times. We've been doing it for far too long with absolutely no repercussions to the offending player. Accountability each and every play.

I don't know if anyone keeps the stats for this, but our LTs must have led the country in false starts over the last 4-5 years--don't know who wins the job this fall, but hopefully someone that can remember the snap count

GBR

 

[Doc Holiday]

Ok so on offense besides the entire line (since Conrad and Decker are likely out for spring at Center ) I really want to see Martinez and Gebbia.....I can't help the feeling that for some reason Gebbia is going to explode in this offense and take the starting QB job by the throat and run with it.....I have made no secret that I thought he was the best QB on the team with the most up side......but I haven't seen Martinez play yet either so that battle is going to be good.
There are alot of speedy pass catching type guys to watch but the main spots are already sewed up by Morgan and Spielman......
Now Running Back........wow.......talk about a good bunch of talented hard workers......we have plenty to think about here....Jaylin Bradley, Wyatt Mazour, Ben Miles plus Tre Bryant who might be back for spring.....Greg Bell is a hammer and brings us a whole new dimension plus the kids who won't be here till fall camp......and that will be a whole new experience....with Moses coming in and others.

Now on Defense......sheesh really just a new look and attitude from the guys we had last year ......but a couple that really bear watching is of course the nation's #1 Juco Linebacker out of Butler C.C. Wild Will Honas and of course our own Big Ben Stille...I hold a special place in my heart for both these guys....and I have no doubt that as long as they stay on the healthy end of things .....we will no doubt be talking about both of them for several years to come.
Most interesting to me is the UN known names or forgotten guys maybe.....with this staff one thing you can count on is the best players in their eyes scholarship or walk on will be on the field and that's as it should be.
One huge advantage to having NEBRASKA kids out there is they KNOW how lucky they are just to wear that uniform and walk out of that tunnel on to that field......there is no place for guys that feel entitled to a spot because they were some 3-4 star player from out of state.....all that hooey goes out the window when the pads start to pop and stuff gets real.....trust me when I say we are going to see some kids from Nebraska that would do anything for this team push our scholarship guys every second of every practice and that is going to have the end result of EVERY FREAKING BODY STEPPING UP THEIR GAME.....YOU WANNA BE A baller and come to a history rich place like Nebraska.....and make a name for yourself.....step up.....you wanna be remembered alongside Notre Dame, Michigan, USC..... Alabama....then the time is now....strap up your cup.....buckle down your chinstrap and get ready cause stuff like that don't come easy.....you gotta earn it.....you wanna Blackshirt ???? Yeah ???? Well come get some......come to practice every day batshit crazy and ready to work.....don't quit till the whistle makes you quit.....go at everything you do with that Chip on your shoulder mentality.....force others around you to be accountable for their part in and out of class......on and off the field.....and play every play like it's the last time your going to be lucky enough to have earned the right to represent one of the most storied and proud institutions in the world of College Sports.....the University of NEBRASKA Cornhuskers.......you never know from 1 nano second to the next when the play you just ran might we'll be your last one ......ever......so you gotta ask yourself......do you wanna be remembered because of how hard you just played.......or because you let up......legged it out ......let your brothers on the other side handle it.........that's the difference between being a Blackshirt or just a guy who played some college ball on Defense......

Go Big Red !

Doc.

 

[Doc Holiday]

I know this will sound strange but no one has really said much about special teams yet.....yeah we have a punter who has shown flashes of being a real game changer but Mr.Automatic Brown is gone....now to the NFL.....plus we need kick off and punt returner specialist guys.....I have heard rumors......and rumblings but nothing concrete yet.....I know Coach Osborne took great pride in our special teams being truly "Special" in a good way so I see no reason why Coach Frost (even though he hinted that he had no idea) I suspect is being coy about it.....we know we have guys who can return punts and kicks and there is going to be a battle for field goal kicker and extra points between a walk on from Omaha and the Scholarship kid who was ranked in the top 3 nationally I think of the country for field goals so I was just thinking ......knowing how much Coach Osborne put into it.....why won't Frost do the exact same thing ?......just wanted to throw that out there too and see what you all think......Coach used to have a formula that told on average how many points were left out there because of poor special teams play......

Trust me when I say when you have a good starting line up of hungry, quick, agresive guys on defense from front to back that can pin their ears back and REALLY get after an offense......you have no idea how much that fires up those guys when your punter just burried the other guys offense inside their own 15, 10 or 5 yard line.....the deeper your kicker puts them the more fired up your guys get......then when the D coordinator has enough faith that they can't throw themselves out of trouble on you and takes the leash off......buddy ......buddy......buddy it's like feeding time at the raptors pen.....toss in the piggy and get the hell out the way......NEVER GET BETWEEN A BLACKSHIRT AND HIS PREY !

Doc.

 

[RED ED]

Damn Doc , I am getting a lil to fired up this early after your posts .
I am so stoked for 2018 . Damn. I am behind enemy lines ( Miami ) and can't wait for this season my God I wish my Dad was still around he would be going nuts..... there has never been a bigger husker fan. He had a room all Nebraska ,whiskey bottles from the 60s autographed balls from the 80s , coins with coaches and seasons. And red furniture and carpet
Only one thing in it not Nebraska a navy flag with Roger staughbach (sp?) Autograph. The old man was 27 yrs in the navy

 

[innmc]

I may be reading too much into this but I came away thinking the staff is salivating somewhat over the talent and buy-in of the players he has here. I think they are pumped. This team is going to surprise some people.

 

[SUHnami]

I may be reading too much into this but I came away thinking the staff is salivating somewhat over the talent and buy-in of the players he has here. I think they are pumped. This team is going to surprise some people.

All the players saw how this staff turned around UCF in 2 years. They saw what they did to Auburn in the Peach bowl. They have all bought in. Those that haven't or odon't during Spring Ball won't be here.

 

[Doc Fumble]

All the players saw how this staff turned around UCF in 2 years. They saw what they did to Auburn in the Peach bowl.

I agree with innmc, listening to the coaching staff, the buy-in appears to have been off-the-charts. While it would be easy to say that the buy-in comments fall under the category of "what you'd expect to hear," the circumstances this time around are much different as SUHnami pointed out.

Frankly, it's hard to imagine how any Husker football player worth his salt would NOT be totally bought into Frost and the new staff.........

.........uh, unless you're a fullback.

 

[SUHnami]

I agree with innmc, listening to the coaching staff, the buy-in appears to have been off-the-charts. While it would be easy to say that the buy-in comments fall under the category of "what you'd expect to hear," the circumstances this time around are much different as SUHnami pointed out.

Frankly, it's hard to imagine how any Husker football player worth his salt would NOT be totally bought into Frost and the new staff.........

.........uh, unless you're a fullback.

So FB Ben Miles hasn't bought in?